Tuesday, February 19, 2013

Cardinal Schönborn is the Left’s Candidate for Pope


Notes on Vienna’s Archibshop -- It’s Probably Fair to Say, He’s the Candidate of the Left

 “Tell me, who praises you, and I will tell you, who you are.”  On this old saying one may think, if  the completely astonishing media praise is taken for the truth,  which at present and in view of the coming conclave is dedicated to the present Viennese Archbishop.  This can be presently gleaned:

“The tension is a concern.  Especially as Austria’s Cardinal is appearing on all short lists of the international book maker as a candidate.  … Schönborn is considered in the world Church as a proven crisis manager, as partly eager for reform and enjoyed international visibility as the editing director of the world catechism. … The more the point is, says Kirchen-Insider, in the Curia and in the Vatican to be in withdrawal, then the more it needs a still relatively young and strong Pope. Schönboren is at 67 in the best age for a Pope. Notably: Currently Italian media praise Schönborn… and among Europe’s Cardinals Schönborn is a strong name, a well balanced reformer and one, who is open to the progressive wing of the Church.”

These lauds appeared in the local left-gazette “News”, supposedly “Austrias largest news magazine”; the praise is part of an eleven page snide, insulting and anti-Church description of the abdication of Pope Benedict XVI. The praise of Schönborn is also sung with ulterior motives. For example in the also left-leaning “Süddeutschen Zeitung” (16./17.2.2013)

“… apart from that Vienna’s Archbishop Christoph Schönborn brings … much along, that might qualify him -- at 68 years of age also an adequate age and very much experience; and he’s been leading the Archdiocese of Vienna for 13 years. … He is considered one, who can clearly participate and as a guarantor, that the theme of the struggle with sexual abuse will occupy a high place. … It is also mentioned with praise in Rome, that this Cardinal, clothed like a simple priest, arrived by train at the station terminal and took his own luggage himself to the taxi.”

Or the Left boulevard sheet,“Österreich” which offers the erroneous tag line (2/13.2013): “Schönborn is the First Choice”. “Is being considered as the successor… I trust him for that, Schönborn is a very intelligent person. He has also, as he handled himself in the subject of Groer, made a name for himself. I well believe that he has a chance.”

The Left-leaning “Kurier” (2.13.2013) heading: “Schönborn is in Pole Position for New Pope” and likewise the left Italian “La Republica”, in which it says: “Among he foreign candidates Cardinal Christoph Schönborn is the first choice.” As an example of a long harmonious chorus from the Left media world, besides the praises after praise, it is seemingly clear that Schönborn is THE candidate of the Left.

What Could the Reason be?

Even in Austria, there where the view on the activities of the Archbishop of Vienna can’t be obscured by fine words and words effecting orthodoxy to Rome, Cardinal Schönborn has numerous critics among the Pope-loyal, elite of local Catholicism.

An extensive education and high intellect isn’t begrudged is allowed him even by his opponents, yet admitting all of that he doesn’t have the quality of character for his high position, or for the Papal Office.

The enthusiasm of the Left media over Schönborn is no mistake. One had already from the beginning of his time in office seen that while he quickly distanced himself publicly from his relatively conservative (and therefore unloved by the establishment) predecessor with an excessive campaign of character assassination, thereby winning the impression that under Schönborn’s direction, the Church in Austria had become thoroughly instrumentalized -- by the ruling Left and in the service of its interests.

As to the grounds for the Schönbornistic easy past in the here and now, much has been guessed. Some have come to the conclusion that he simply lacks the courage. As he was joined with the Cardinal’s purple, there appears to be no question that he has been very preoccupied.

A great Schönbornistic easy pass (to the establishment) is seen for example, according to local critics, was in the election for the Bundespresident of the Republic in 2010, as the Archbishop made gestures and endorsements, which many interpreted as electioneering for the candidate of the Left.

Or it is seen also in his acceptance expressed to the ruling majority on questions of abortion, where Cardinal Schönborn is not to be seen, for example, in any protests at abortion clinics, he also banned on several times all too vocally and all too effectively resistance (like toward his colleague Bishop Laun) against the abortion business, while he was clearly effective in the media while appearing for a Left-anarchist organized “Asylum” - legitimizing by his visit, the occupation of the Votivkirche in Vienna.

Whether it applies to the “artwork” of a Bolshevik “artist” suddenly put in the church space for exhibition; whether it is for the state recognition of homosexual concubinage, which in no way has ben opposed by him, whether it’s about the public and seemingly excessive payments of ecclesiastical money to the so-called “victims” of ecclesiastical “abuse” or for high ecclesiastical endorsements for Leftist and Liberal politicians, while at the same time Conservatice clerics must fear Archepiscopal criticism or discipline -- Schönborn’s effect on increasingly wider circles is dubious.

Also the countless and truly ostentatiously schonbornistic gestures of piety (Carrying luggage from the train station) may not convince, gives one up and down the impression that they could belong to the subtle medium of an apparently very efficient career plan.

If the Church is proven to be done a good service by a Schönborn Papacy, one may in any case well doubt. From the media’s praise, which takes Schönborn’s side, there are indeed certain circles having a great interest.

We would like would like to give a selection here of critical voices together, which have accompanied Schönborn’s effect in Vienna in the last 13 years. A picture can be formed for one’s self. We will see that this collection will be continually increased.

Link to kreuz.net….

24 comments:

  1. This man's an apostate of the 1st class, judging by, e.g., YouCat.

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    1. He’s very slippery, but no one seems to mind it.

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    2. Just do a search on google "Schonborn Youth Mass" and you will see a video of a youth mass he presided at complete with balloons, rock music, disco lights etc. I can't imagine him being selected pope...

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    3. Cardinal Schonborn has done some things which make one wonder about him..a short list:
      1..The strange Masses, including the western style outdoor Mass with costumes and American Music,beer,cigarettes and food during Mass.
      The cardinal does appear in at least one of these videos which were on youtube and gloria.tv..by now they may be removed.
      2..The over-ruling of a pastor in his diocese who did not want a man openly living the gay lifestyle to serve on the parish council. The pastor subsequently resigned.
      3..The permitting of the exhibiting of a mural of The Last Supper as a homosexual orgy to be exhibited in his diocese.
      This was displayed on gloria.tv web-site for several months, and may still be there.
      4..The instillation of a bust of a religious sister martyr on the wall of his cathedral. The bust displays the saint's bare breasts, and the facial expression appears frenzied. I believe this may be the work of the same artist who did the Last Supper homosexual orgy mural for display in a museum in the diocese.

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  2. How did they decide on Schonborn when they have so many apostate candidates to choose from?

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    1. Amen! Schonborn is the symbol of a decaying, morally and doctrinally corrupt Vatican II denomination in Europe.

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  3. Well, I forgot. It does not have to be a bishop at all. Don't tell the Leftists or they'll vote for the obama person.

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  4. Yes and we can be sure that if the secular media is for someone then we are surely against the said someone. I thank Tancred that I am aware of some of what goes on uhhemmm over there. Oh and Germany passed a law today further loosening "abberosexual" adoption "rights".

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  5. Somehow I don't think Groer needed much help with character assasination, but you obviously feel schonborn needs a helping hand. I often get the feeling apostate is a word trads use to write off anyone they disagree with. Schonborn to my mind is a good sort, and i'm by no means a liberal. Don't think for one minute he will be elected Pope mind you.

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    1. Schonborn publicly questions priestly celibacy, advocates Holy Communion for sinning Homosexuals, thinks Homosexuals in "lasting relationships" deserve "respect", permits rampant liturgical abuse in his district and has vehemently defended a most sacriligious "art" production.

      Yes, he is very "good sort" alright. Maybe "apostate" is not a good word for him but WHACKO is.

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    2. Good for you, Jane. Your last sentence is a masterpiece.

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    3. Unlike the Vatican II sectarians, so-called "trads" have one immediate rule of faith, the perenial magisterium of the Catholic Church from 33 A.D. forward. They do not have 5 rules of faith, one for each modernist claimant to the papacy from John XXIII onward, as the Vatican II conservatives hold the personal theories and practices of each Vatican II "pope" as their immediate rule of faith. Therefore the so-called "trads" have an objective and infallible immediate rule of faith that does not change every 10-20 years with the election of a new pope. Thus apostasy has nothing to do with personal agreements or disagreements over matters of opinion or even theology alone. Apostasy is the end result of heresy and Vatican II is the modernist council of heresy compared to the perennial magisterium of the Catholic Church. Therefore not only is Schonborn an apostate but every modernist heretic who embraced Vatican II is in principle an apostate. There is only one course for the Vatican II denomination founded on the synthesis of heresies that is modernism; apostasy. So yes for the traditional Catholic the standard of apostasy is as objective and permanent as Trent, Vatican I and Pope St. Pius X's Pascendi, all of which must be rejected by every proponent of Vatican II. Does anyone think that Schonborn professes the Tridentine-Vatican I creed or the Athanasius creed? The answer is no and the same can be said for all modernists who profess the Vatican II mythology. Therefore, they and Schonborn are proven apostates.

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    4. I sometimes wonder if trads realise just how much they have in common with v11 sectarians. Both groups seem to place their own judgment and idea of the magisterium bound to a particular time and place above the true tradition of the church which has unfolded over the centuries. The VII's seem to see everything from the vantage point of the 2nd vatican council and its time and the trads often seem to see everything from the vantage point of the 19th century : VI, Syllabus of errors, Pascendi etc. Neither of these ways is compatible with tradition. Trads ( although not all of them to be fair) make the mistake of confusing their own rather narrow and time bound understanding of tradition with tradition itself. There is to my mind something rather presumptuous about reserving the epithet traditional for those catholics who frequent the old rite. Tradition cannot be synonymous with this group of people.

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    5. I don’t know why Leftists bother at all, unless it’s meal ticket they’re after and some professional gratification.

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    6. Furthermore, you say that Trads accept the magisterium from abouu 33ad onwards, but what about Vatican ii onwards, or has the magisterium discontinued. As far as I can see, the traditionalist position as you explain it (and i've heard it countless time from traditionals over ther years) lacks internal cohesion. Everythings was fine then Evil John the 23rd came along and all of a sudden the papacy was in errror and the holy spirit deserted the church and came to rest on a bunch rather pure trads, in whose presence everyone delighted because they were so obviously filled with the holy spirit. It does not make sense to give absolute value to Pascendi, Syllabus of errors, Trent etc and little or more often than not no value to VII and any subsequent magisterial teaching.

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    7. It sure beats only accepting the “Magisterium” after C.E. 1963.

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    8. That would of course be quite a silly thing to do, and yes i'm aware there are some who seem to do this.
      I'm not convinced one is better than the other however.

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    9. Most of the German senior clergy falls in this category.

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    10. Dear Simon. Please visit Kreuz.net for three complete litanies of Schonborn's accomplishments.

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  6. What then the stance of the non-SSPX "Trads" who are great on the issue of Obedience?

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  7. Most of his critics in Austria are conservative and some not-so Catholics like this man whose hunger strike protesting the Austrian Bishop's participation in the abortion industry induced a special trip by Msgr. Ratzinger, the Pope's brother, to address the issue of "Aktion Leben" giving referral services for abortion. The practice still continues to this day, as far as we're aware.

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  8. http://eponymousflower.blogspot.com/2011/12/holy-fathers-brother-intervenes-in.html?m=1

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