Showing posts with label Rottenburg. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Rottenburg. Show all posts

Monday, February 11, 2013

Fool's Mass in Rottenburg Will Take Place Again

He'd already announced a year in advance in the Schwäbischen Zeitung: He will repeat the Carnival-falderal in the church of Ochsenhausen.

Dekan Schänzle is quoted: "A Fool's Mass will take place on 2013 in Fansets-Hochburg Ochsenhausen against. This will draw people who don't usually go to Church." (S.Z. 1.6.2012) It is well known that Holy Mass was mixed up with Carnival celebration from the film: The Fool's Mass of Ochsenhausen.

Very many pius.info readers have in the meantime have, thanks to the call for the bringing notice to this Liturgical abuse, weighed down the Ordinary of Rottenburg.

Actually, they received a standardized answer from the Liturgical Delegate, who despite seeing the Fasching marchers, costume communion and joke sermon, intervened here:


Dear Miss  XXXX:   
You have addressed our Diocese by using a form letter, which is placed on the home page of the Society of St. Pius X, and lodged a complain referring to Canon 1476 against Dean Schanzle.

A critical examination of the video, which has been offered on the site of the Society, that in the approximately five minute long selection, no violations were identified, which are covered in 172 and 173 of the Instruction Redemptionis Sacramentum.

Because there were no violations involving the named relevant paragraphs, there is no "possibility of an offense or an abuse against the Most Holy Eucharist", so that there won't be an inquiry introduced in the sense of Nr. 178 of the cited instruction.

In this connection I would like, however, in connection with your consideration, to defend the dignity of the Eucharistic celebration, to address this, that it is hardly consistent with the dignity of the Eucharistic celebration, to manipulate this, in order to gather to gather incriminating evidence in an amateur video recording against a priest.

With Warm Regards,
Auxiliary Bishop Johannes Kreidler
Episcopal Vicar for Liturgy

The almost unimaginable statement: "Because there were no violations involving named paragraphs".

Here is the summary of what was to be seen in the short video:

The pastor entered with the Carnival horn music in the church, accompanied by the costumed ministers, he used the old fashioned ambo for a "sermon" in the style of a "fool's speech" to which he let the Radetzkymarsch play (citation: "Normal den Radeztkymarsch!"), then he threw roses to the crowd and at the end of his speech.  The ambo and the altar were adorned with carnival-like crooked picture frames, complete with the theme the "Mass": 'falls out of the frame'.  Costumed children with fool's caps walk directly to the altar in the sanctuary, while the pastor is dressed in a fool's cap.  Dean Schanzle tells amusing jokes from the altar, at which the gathered community laughed loudly, apposite that an old hymn was distorted:  "A house full of glory, that runs riot today,  really it's rumored otherwise that's a fool's house".  Then came the shameful "Costume Communion".  At the end the entire community linked arms in the church to a local Fasching hit "Ohu".



To all of this, Auxiliary Bishop Kreidler said "no relevant abuses could be affirmed"?

Pius.info asks Auxiliary Bishop Kreidler then the following open question:

Have you, Excellency, actually read the texts of Vatican II in their entirety?  Is the instruction for the Liturgy today perhaps not valid any longer?  There it reads word for word:


3. Therefore no other person, even if he be a priest, may add, remove, or change anything in the liturgy on his own authority. (Decree on the Liturgy, Sacrosanctum Concilium 22:3)

Why is it that the Diocese of Rottenburg does not follow the prescriptions of the Second Vatican Council?

It appears that it will really only be possible to address complaints to Rome: on the formula for complaints. In English.




Friday, October 26, 2012

Coverup Continues: German SSPX Threatened by Diocesan Attorney

Edit: here's a translation from the Society of St. Pius X in the German district, which is currently being threatened by the local Diocese of Rottenburg:

The coverup attempt surrounding the scandal Mass of Ochsenhausen enters its second round.

Now the Diocese of Rottenburg is attempting to put pressure on pius.info.  A few days ago the editor received a threat from the Diocesan Attorney Dr. Felix Hammer. (photo)

Today (October 25th) is when the first deadline will expire.  Then the Diocese of Rottenberg will sue pius.info. Instead of admitting and to suppress and to forbid Dean Schanzle from going back and repeating,  the Diocese is threatening those with the complain, who have brought the abuse to public attention.

Now only appealing to Rome will help.  Please help with making the Liturgical abuse in Germany known (Ochsenhausen is only  one example of numberless).

Here is video-evidence of the breach against a decree of the Council:


Therefore no other person, even if he be a priest, may add, remove, or change anything in the liturgy on his own authority. (SC 22§3)

Bitte wenden Sie sich an die Kongregation für den göttlichen Kult und die Sakramentenordnung in Rom:

Congregazione per il Culto Divino e la Disciplina dei Sacramenti Il Prefetto Palazzo delle Congregazioni Piazza Pio XII I-00193 ROMA

 Faxnummer: 0039 06 698 83 499 

Email-Adresse: cultudiv@ccdds.va (Write in German or English; pius.info will try to get an Italian sample)

Your Excellency,

According to the instruction Redemptionis Sacramentum of the Congregation of Divine Worship and the Sacramental Ordo of 25 March 2004 I would like to supply the following appeal so that "the most Holy Sacrament of the Eucharist will be protected from every form of irreverence and disrespect and all abuses will be completely corrected."

I am enclosing the following Carnival Mass of Ochsenhausen inclusive of Can 1476 for illustration, which shows a serious attack against the Liturgy in the following video.

The Dean there has published in the newspaper his intention to repeat the abuse ("A Fool's Mass will take place on Fasnets-Hochburg (Carnival) in Ochsenhausen. There will be people there who aren't churchgoers," said Dean Sigmund Schänzle from S.Z. 6/1/2012),  may it please Your Excellency to intervene urgently. 

 Yours Faithfully, X




Girls dressed as angels enter the church on skates, while a turning carousel mounted by a beauty queen brings the bible to the ambo.  A Carnival Mass, which we still haven't seen in our latitude.

These photos should bring Dean Schänzle and the Diocese of Rottenburg to reconsider.

Because principally there is no difference between the march of a Carnial group with drums and trumpets into the pilgrimage church of Ochsenhausen.  The whole thing is only somewhat more extensively formed, even South American.

Or will Dean Schänzle insist that his Carnival Mass is "according to the Council", while the south American is really not?

Link to pius.de...