Showing posts with label Msgr Nicola Bux. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Msgr Nicola Bux. Show all posts

Friday, July 6, 2012

Msgr Bux Doesn't Think +Mueller's Error is Significant: Daniel Maguirre Permitted to Deny Vatican II

Edit:  Perhaps you might remember when Kung became a Sedevacantist.  Well, now it appears that Daniel MacGuire is joining the ranks and all of this in contrast to an amazing mis-statement by Msgr Nicola Bux.

Now that Msgr. Nicola Bux has entered the fray, insisting that Archbishop Mueller's statements  in contradiction of the Dogma of the perpetual virginity isn't really a contradiction, or at least not worth worrying about, I thought I'd describe a man who does think traditional Catholic teachings, apparently defended and promoted now by the Catholic Bishops of the USA now put themselves outside of the Catholic Church, according to the putatively and his impunity, Father Daniel Macguire of the Marquette University, yet another allegedly Catholic Jesuit school.

How is it that Daniel Maguire is allowed to ignore Vatican II and actually anathematize the Bishops of the US for simply restating a Catholic belief about marriage and sodomy? 

This is what Msgr Bux has written, incredibly as reported by the traditionalist website, Rorate:
The Catechism of the Catholic Church states that the physical aspect of virginity is due entirely to the fact that Jesus was conceived without human seed, but by the action of the Holy Spirit. It is a divine work that exceeds all understanding and human possibility. The Church professes the real and perpetual Virginity of Mary but does not enter into physical details; neither does it seem that the Councils and the Fathers stated otherwise.
So, you're PRETTY sure?  Does not SEEM that the Fathers state otherwise? This is the following from Cathcon.com where a Mariology is cited by a Dominican [emphasis ours].  There are no defide dogmatic statements without Patristic substantiation.  We'll find them.  I believe St. John Chrysostom too begin with:

(Cathcon- I can always send the new CDF a copy of Mariologia by Father Benedictus Henricus Merkelbach OP. It has three extensive chapters on these matters.
The first begins
Dogma fidei est Matrem Dei fuisse Virginem ante partem et in ipsa conceptione Filii sui
(it is a dogma of the Faith that the Mother of God remained a Virgin before birth and in the Conception of her Son.

The second

Dogma fidei est Matrem Dei esse virginem in partu (it is a dogma of the Faith that the Mother of God remained a Virgin at birth)

The third Dogma fidei est Matrem Dei esse virginem post partu (it is a dogma of the Faith that the Mother of God remained a Virgin after birth)

In summary!

Triplex Virginitas Mariae scil ante partum, in partu, est post partum est de fide. He can return it only if a a letter is attached saying that he gives assent to the teaching of the Church in all ages but our own).

Contrary to what Msgr Bux is suggesting, the dogmas denied by Archbishop Mueller are DE FIDE, which means they are required of belief of every Catholic now living.  Anyone who denies it is at least holding a position that is materially, if not pertinaciously and therefore formal, heretical position.

It is interesting to contrast this current misunderstanding with another false position by the long-time and unpunished Father Daniel Maguire SJ from the Badger Catholic, as follows:


Daniel Maguire, the theology professor at Marquette University, seems to like getting media attention. He certainly gets it… often! And his friends in the media are more-than-willing accomplices. 
Last month, Maguire wrote in an email to The Daily Beast“The bishops will stand with Dolan and the U.S. Catholic Conference, but on this issue, they are in moral schism since most in the Church have moved on [to] a more humane view on the rights of those whom God has made gay.” 
Now, a month later, having been out of the news for a while, he’s quoted in The Columbus Dispatch“There’s a moral schism going on in the Catholic [C]hurch, and the bishops are the schismatics, broken from the laity and theologians.”

We can only wonder in amazement that priests and Bishops who not only accept the teachings of the Vatican Council but hold the office of the Holy Father more obediently than most if not all the Bishops allegedly in union with the Roman Church,  are somehow outside of the Church.

It seems to us, Msgr Bux's protestations not withstanding, that the only real Catholics in the world are often cast out in the darkness, or dying unmourned in remote places ignored by the intelligent newspapers and enlightened minds.