tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post843195868847954513..comments2024-03-29T00:16:25.097-07:00Comments on The Eponymous Flower: Pope Francis and Lunch: Luxury Versus Simplicity or Legionaries Versus Franciscans?Tancredhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-84477330274218559372014-06-03T02:22:11.388-07:002014-06-03T02:22:11.388-07:00Thank you, Woody.Thank you, Woody.Damask Rosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12903564104733536123noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-21858140621959080962014-06-02T11:58:21.788-07:002014-06-02T11:58:21.788-07:00Sacre Coeur, of course, pardon my (lack of) French...Sacre Coeur, of course, pardon my (lack of) French.Woodyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08910654300435533408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-28809259559105957062014-06-02T11:52:38.760-07:002014-06-02T11:52:38.760-07:00last part of the XIXth Century, I meant to say...last part of the XIXth Century, I meant to say...Woodyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08910654300435533408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-57144485796108953952014-06-02T11:50:31.236-07:002014-06-02T11:50:31.236-07:00For a really good history of Notre Dame, see this ...For a really good history of Notre Dame, see this paper, not necessarily written by a traditional Catholic (maybe not Catholic at all), but still full of interesting lore: http://bcrfj.revues.org/4122<br /><br />Note the discussion of the French pilgrimages in the last XIXth Century as being especially penitential in character; this kind of thing, sadly, seems to get lost in the translation in today's accounts (the same is true for the history of Sacre Couer in Paris).<br /><br />Woodyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08910654300435533408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-7433850978052470562014-06-02T05:37:21.871-07:002014-06-02T05:37:21.871-07:00One wonders if the Legionaries were upset at the s...One wonders if the Legionaries were upset at the snub. Maciel's no longer around (and he kissed Don Michele De Paolis hand (...forgot, De Paolis is pro-homosexual, not abusive...), so even if the Pope took flak for staying at Notre Dame, he'd defend the renewed order, yes? The Legionaries are also his priestly sons after all. And even if the Legionaries have a reputation of wealth, what of it? If it wasn't for the nobles of old, paying for the construction of a church here, paying for the establishment of a monastery there, the Catholic Church wouldn't have some of its remarkable and fine edifices today. In other places, people have scraped their pennies together to erect their Victorian churches. This is how the world works. Besides, isn't it good manners to eat the meal the host prepares for you? What was that quote about Jesus eating with certain people again? By no means, do I wish to hurt the Legionaries or Regnum Christi's feelings, by implication of the quote, no, not at all, but it's all getting a bit much, predictable and silly really.<br /><br />This is all getting petty and boring... and your average middle-classes and above could stop funding the Church.<br /><br />Fascinating history regarding the Notre Dame Centre. Beautiful building. I'm really proud it was built to house, well, us; pilgrims to the Holy Land and that the Centre has helped local Christians too. We need to be proud of our patrimony.Damask Rosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12903564104733536123noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-80995726323828739602014-06-02T04:25:28.176-07:002014-06-02T04:25:28.176-07:00Maybe it is rice and beans that put the pot on our...Maybe it is rice and beans that put the pot on our portly pope.CJnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-38700920168797085552014-06-01T19:32:54.168-07:002014-06-01T19:32:54.168-07:00Notre Dame is a beautiful place where I have staye...Notre Dame is a beautiful place where I have stayed several times. It is not a luxury hotel, there are no TVs in the rooms for starters, and most of the rooms, certainly the ones in which I stayed, are small, nicely laid out, but not at all at a luxury level. In many respects it is more like a retreat center, with a very beautiful chapel, Masses, Exposition and Benediction every day, and the like. The rooftop restaurant is high class, no doubt, but we pilgrims always eat in the multi-table dining room which serves buffet style, good food, for sure, but not like a five star hotel.Woodyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08910654300435533408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-59607087772259881402014-06-01T16:54:35.053-07:002014-06-01T16:54:35.053-07:00And why was it put into the itinerary in the first...And why was it put into the itinerary in the first place then?? Looks like more PR games. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com