tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post8075164765453334056..comments2024-03-29T00:16:25.097-07:00Comments on The Eponymous Flower: Leaked Documents Reveal Pope Francis’ Plan to Open the Door to Married PriestsTancredhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-11843448684662845692020-02-07T19:30:37.689-08:002020-02-07T19:30:37.689-08:00You're drowning in your own hubris, dissemblan...You're drowning in your own hubris, dissemblance and ignorance, Mr Martin. Squirm as you will, you wrote, "... the Immaculate Contraception....". Take responsibility for it old chap and cut the bullshit excuses and rationalization.<br />It will not go unnoticed that the only reason you get such a free run with your nonsense it that anyone who points its out and challenges you is edited out. This practice is a clear indication of insecurity and fear. PWnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-61553529151138401082020-02-07T01:14:49.223-08:002020-02-07T01:14:49.223-08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Peter Watsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-42483409886511339732020-02-06T20:33:45.071-08:002020-02-06T20:33:45.071-08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.PWnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-58613729071970417052020-02-04T16:09:24.911-08:002020-02-04T16:09:24.911-08:00Re: PW - Are you suggesting that God's "c...Re: PW - Are you suggesting that God's "conception" of the priesthood is something sullied? The priestly "Immaculate Contraception" you cite is this idea of married priests since it contradicts God's pure conception of the priesthood. As Cardinal Sarah said, "We cannot create a priesthood for married men without damaging the priesthood of Jesus Christ and His Bride, the Church.”David Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09040269623286897803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-36333053123387342332020-02-03T13:54:22.143-08:002020-02-03T13:54:22.143-08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.John Seipsonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-49564453243637339152020-02-03T05:00:12.954-08:002020-02-03T05:00:12.954-08:00One good outcome of the silliness being promoted b...One good outcome of the silliness being promoted by Mr. Seipso, is that silliness, naiveté, and disinformation is easily corrected<br /><br />http://unamsanctamcatholicam.blogspot.com/2019/09/but-eastern-churches-have-married.htmlMick Jagger Gathers No Mosquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12879499915093940176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-58795719177634729292020-02-02T20:44:48.043-08:002020-02-02T20:44:48.043-08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.John Seipsonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-33827613418356168592020-02-02T17:11:20.070-08:002020-02-02T17:11:20.070-08:00100% Correct......just like the German bishops/car...100% Correct......just like the German bishops/cardinals, and Amazon "fathers" did.<br />Same as all rad dissidents and LGBT promotors. Nothing new about that (for the last 50 years) :)<br /><br />Damian M. MalliapalliAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-46540603380134027302020-02-02T16:22:51.770-08:002020-02-02T16:22:51.770-08:00I notice that the people who are most in favor of ...I notice that the people who are most in favor of the end of celibacy are those who either don’t have any real experience of Orthodox secular clergy, or have an agenda of some kind which has no concern for the actual truth of the matter, but are taking aim at the sacramental character of the priesthood itself.Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-72899395058173457642020-02-02T15:00:13.333-08:002020-02-02T15:00:13.333-08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.John Seipsonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-8194824185216316292020-02-02T14:51:32.868-08:002020-02-02T14:51:32.868-08:00John Seipso sould an awful lot like (even the way ...John Seipso sould an awful lot like (even the way he writes), like 3-4 other guys who were/are here to post from time to time. I think it's really only 1 guy who uses multiple aliases.Gets tired of one, uses another. How about that??? Am I close?<br /><br />Damian M. MalliapalliAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-23310720442130103502020-02-02T09:40:15.663-08:002020-02-02T09:40:15.663-08:00I’ve expertise Eastern Rites with their married pr...I’ve expertise Eastern Rites with their married priests and their bread cubes. They may keep it.<br /><br />The Church permits many things that are different. She has the power to do so. But married priests is NOT the ideal. Very simple. You cannot serve two masters. Case frickin’ closedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-55408736538328739352020-02-02T03:14:38.202-08:002020-02-02T03:14:38.202-08:00Come back when you’re not a loathsome mouthpiece f...Come back when you’re not a loathsome mouthpiece for moral corruption and dishonesty, Gay riel.Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-62259025846888340752020-02-02T00:49:13.585-08:002020-02-02T00:49:13.585-08:00David Martin,
"... the Immaculate Contracepti...David Martin,<br />"... the Immaculate Contraception...."<br />Really? Tell us more.Peter Watsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-73869366910942871182020-02-01T18:14:29.916-08:002020-02-01T18:14:29.916-08:00So you’re the god of who’s Catholic, too? LolSo you’re the god of who’s Catholic, too? LolTancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-38370708591045241992020-02-01T16:09:43.126-08:002020-02-01T16:09:43.126-08:00When you are prepared to join the Catholic Church,...When you are prepared to join the Catholic Church, Damian, I might consider taking you seriously but I wouldn't count on it. I think you're so far in schism that there's little or no chance of you re-converting.John Seipsonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-43697086356362430242020-02-01T15:51:33.591-08:002020-02-01T15:51:33.591-08:00for John Seipso:
Your comment "There are not...for John Seipso:<br /><br />Your comment "There are not two magisteriums. Francis is the pope and Ratzinger still thinks he is"<br /><br />Yes, there are two Magesteriums....one is Roman Catholic( Benedict XVI and Cardinal Sarah etc.), and one that isn't "Pope" Francis, etc.<br /><br />Damian MalliapalliAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-47480912009088354352020-02-01T15:39:11.047-08:002020-02-01T15:39:11.047-08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.John Seipsonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-5765049001536882462020-02-01T15:24:06.336-08:002020-02-01T15:24:06.336-08:00JBQ, just as an aside, these Amazons are properly ...JBQ, just as an aside, these Amazons are properly called "savages", because a savage is one who never knew civilization and never knew better. A "barbarian" would be Bergoglio and the German bishops, since a barbarian understands and knows what is civilization, but rejects it. Theologically, Bergoglio is a Barbarian, and an Amazonian is an unconverted pagan savage.Constantinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15957650751915614843noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-37340026948767783302020-02-01T14:19:02.146-08:002020-02-01T14:19:02.146-08:00For this pontiff, "married priests" is p...For this pontiff, "married priests" is part of his agenda of "bait and switch". The use of the Amazon is a return to the pristine times of the early Church and an emphasis on the "noble savage". Hence, the destruction of the traditional Church.-----James Fennimore Cooper wrote of the Iroquois. Ask Isaac Jogues and his fellow missioners what they thought of the noble savage of that day and time. They parallel those of the Amazon Basin and their barbarian lifestyle.JBQhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09344181644293746758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-22520739927857242902020-02-01T13:21:06.373-08:002020-02-01T13:21:06.373-08:00Re: John Seipso - When we speak here of married pr...Re: John Seipso - When we speak here of married priests, we are NOT speaking of celibate or Josephite marriages, but marriages as we know it. John Paul II, Benedict XVI, or no pope of history has approved such a thing for the Latin Rite. <br /><br />Moreover, not even celibate marriages are allowed any more; this was only done in the very first centuries (when people were more honest about their vows). Celibacy is a divine precept, not a mere "discipline." It is an essential part of the priesthood, demanded by the very nature of the priesthood, without which the priesthood is sullied and weakened. As Christ Himself wasn't married, neither can his representatives be. <br /><br />Yes, they've allowed this in the Eastern Churches, which is why their thinking is befogged concerning the Primacy of Peter, the Immaculate Contraception, and other divine teachings. Their minds are carnal and worldly because they are not following discipline.<br /><br />And no, the Apostles did not continue to live with their wives but left them and all things to follow the Savior. (Luke 5:11)<br /><br /> David Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09040269623286897803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-4178625339753395072020-02-01T12:29:30.878-08:002020-02-01T12:29:30.878-08:00Moreover, this married priest issue is distorting ...Moreover, this married priest issue is distorting reality. In the East, priests were allowed to be priests of a lower order. The full priest was only considered a full priest if in a religious order.Popes, bishops and priests were fully recognized if a religious: had to be monks, devoid of property and money and family. In the West, the priest was given the concession of being secular and allowed to own personal property.Constantinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15957650751915614843noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-43522691396897070532020-02-01T12:24:14.145-08:002020-02-01T12:24:14.145-08:00Married priests were allowed by Byzantine Emperors...Married priests were allowed by Byzantine Emperors and their marrionetts, same as the current Vatican in regards to the New World Order establishment.Constantinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15957650751915614843noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-57627502464668894182020-02-01T11:26:33.235-08:002020-02-01T11:26:33.235-08:00Wrong choice of words. Thanks for correction. Work...Wrong choice of words. Thanks for correction. Working nights is killing me.Reagan's Bushhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16079994732139505841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-54005568129490755312020-02-01T08:18:14.714-08:002020-02-01T08:18:14.714-08:00There were thousands of them at least until well i...<i>There were thousands of them at least until well into the 6th Century. Read a book.</i><br /><br /><b>FAKE NEWS</b><br /><br />The Apostolic Origins of Priestly Celibacy by Fr Christian Cochini (Hardly a Trad) that includes references to The decretals of Pope Siricius, early 4th century, that demanded a RETURN to the Apostolic Praxis.<br /><br />.<i>There have been married priests in the Eastern Rites since before the Constantinian era.</i><br /><br /><b>FAKE NEWS</b><br /><br />Mick Jagger Gathers No Mosquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12879499915093940176noreply@blogger.com