tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post7837234689928096213..comments2024-03-29T00:16:25.097-07:00Comments on The Eponymous Flower: Putin to Visit Pope Francis -- To Forge a New "Holy Alliance"?Tancredhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-61442243823943770102013-11-27T12:10:56.445-08:002013-11-27T12:10:56.445-08:00All this is wonderful. To forget that the USA was ...All this is wonderful. To forget that the USA was the main force which saved Western Europe from being dominated by the USSR from 1945 until the USSR collapsed in 1991 is WRONG. The EU is creating a Godless and materialist mega state with a lust for power and total domination of its citizens denying them the basic freedoms which Americans are guaranteed in their Constitution, especially its Bill of Rights. At the same time the EU allows a massive migration of 3rd worlders, especially Muslims, into its midst is which is creating a demographic catastrophe for Europe within a generation. Putin is a nationalist. he has no concept of the uniqueness of the USA as an experiment in freedom which has been a light in the world for over 240 years. No one can say that Russia under the tsars or it's Communist leaders was anything but darkness and oppression. Neither the EU or Putin's Russia are to be trusted. They lust for power. The USA never wanted to be a super power. This was a responsibility it was given because of WW II. When nations WANT power as the EU and Russia do then beware. Trouble will follow. <br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04101470128086992898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-5943744514979241252013-11-10T10:28:56.994-08:002013-11-10T10:28:56.994-08:00In light of this most interesting event it is some...In light of this most interesting event it is somewhat amusing to note that a certain well-known blogsite, which considers itself the be-all and end-all of Catholic blogging (and who recently did away with its comment section), has climbed atop its electronic Mt Olympus and instructed us to stop getting "excited" about this meeting between Mr Putin and Francis because our hopes, to put it in their words, may "do more harm".<br /><br />Good grief. <br /><br />I suppose that now that we have been officially admonished by their distinguished blog editor we must all sit down and shut up like all the other little boys and girls. <br /><br />Little wonder they did away with their comments section.schmenznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-37578218258745286562013-11-09T14:34:30.804-08:002013-11-09T14:34:30.804-08:00Russia does not need to be 'consecrated' a...Russia does not need to be 'consecrated' and the only 'schism' was the unitaterally bad action of Cardinal Humbert against his brother Christians in 1054AD. As a person raised in the RCC, who watched Vatican II destroy what was left of the Church, the realization of the heretical nature of the filioque, and its continued use by Rome, even after the pleas of the Orthodox, shows that it is Rome that needs to make the first step. And a corrupt, and graceless communion cannot make effectual prayers. End of Story.<br /><br />P.S. I doubt you'll publish it, but you should. The West is the erring brother, not the other way around. And I am saddened to realize that fifty or more years of my life was spent trying to claim righteousness from a communion that was graceless, hundreds of years before I was born, but clearly is satanic since 1965.<br /> - Fr. John+Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-41383678821705389492013-11-08T14:07:25.274-08:002013-11-08T14:07:25.274-08:00no no. Sorry. I misunderstood you.no no. Sorry. I misunderstood you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-59011380206751500332013-11-08T11:46:08.792-08:002013-11-08T11:46:08.792-08:00I still don't quite understand how a many who ...I still don't quite understand how a many who had such a profound love for the Divine Liturgy, and offer praise to schismatics for preserving it, could at the same time make those assorted sideways comments against Catholics doing what amounts to the same thing in his diocese. Perhaps he's not aware of his special pleading?Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-37998845586087937762013-11-08T11:23:40.204-08:002013-11-08T11:23:40.204-08:00From his Vatican.va Press Office biography of his ...From <a href="http://www.vatican.va/news_services/press/documentazione/documents/cardinali_biografie/cardinali_bio_bergoglio_jm_en.html" rel="nofollow">his Vatican.va Press Office biography of his Cardinal days</a>, he was, as the first sentence prominently notes and makes bold, "<b>Ordinary for Eastern-rite faithful in Argentina who lack an Ordinary of their own rite</b>." This may have been the most important "selling point" for his election.Geremiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11812810552682098086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-59969880220279167852013-11-08T09:32:52.694-08:002013-11-08T09:32:52.694-08:00Anon:
I believe many are hopeful that despite the...Anon:<br /><br />I believe many are hopeful that despite the Pope's often weird and depressing statements it would be a good thing for both of them to meet for a number of reasons.<br /><br />If, and I say "if", such a meeting begins to take a few baby steps toward ending this terrible, tragic schism between the Catholics and the Orthodox then that can only be a good thing. There is the danger that the Pope's misguided ecumenism might cause problems here but we can still hope.<br /><br />Secondly I think it fairly obvious that Putin is the only world leader who is taking serious steps to protect the Middle East Christians - Orthodox and Catholic. While the US and Israeli governments could care less about what happens to the Christians, Russia under Putin does. I realize that punctures our long-held Cold War attitudes but facts are facts.<br /><br />I admit to thinking to myself, "OK Your Holiness, this is an important meeting...don't blow it." I am not unconcerned by what the Pope has said and done recently: i share everyone's anxiety and am no papolater. But for whatever reason he did it, it cannot be doubted that the September 7th initiative of the Pope, when he called for a day of fasting and prayer for Syria, was in my mind a decisive factor in stopping the US and Israel in their tracks and stopping the planned unjustifiable attack on that country. Putin came up with the idea of calling the war mongers' bluff, and it worked. Was this the answer to the September 7th day of fasting and prayer? Was Putin God's instrument here? I don't know. But it is at least interesting to think about.<br /><br />Like you I hope that the Consecration of Russia will happen and soon. We don't know if this meeting will bring that event any closer to fruition. But we can hope for that, too. Aged parenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05217229048176272954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-39725939838862322012013-11-07T23:37:31.293-08:002013-11-07T23:37:31.293-08:00It also looks like Pope Francis, who as one reader...It also looks like Pope Francis, who as one reader tells me, knew Patriarch Kiril well before he was Pope as shepherd of South America's Eastern Catholics. It looks like the groundwork established by the Holy Father is being continued and who knows, perhaps we can expect to see a Pope saying the Divine Liturgy with the Patriarch of Moscow?Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-16987457641983657322013-11-07T23:35:29.653-08:002013-11-07T23:35:29.653-08:00It's news. Who can say whether it is good or n...It's news. Who can say whether it is good or not. The first "Holy Alliance" was envisioned by Alexander Ist against Napoleon. Not a bad cause. The Holy Father wasn't included in that treaty, although it would have been hard for Pius VII to do so since he was Napoleon's "guest" and occasional punching bag.Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-42658417877070494052013-11-07T21:00:10.501-08:002013-11-07T21:00:10.501-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Geremiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11812810552682098086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-81214488690924001032013-11-07T20:55:12.503-08:002013-11-07T20:55:12.503-08:00Obama met Francis? When?Obama met Francis? When?Geremiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11812810552682098086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-81852871288807133822013-11-07T17:58:47.500-08:002013-11-07T17:58:47.500-08:00This is not a flippant request, but can someone br...This is not a flippant request, but can someone briefly state what this good news is? We don't exactly have a faithful Catholic pope. I've read the article twice and don't see anything promising except the remote possibility that Putin will request the Consecration of Russia. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-62469254593533984652013-11-07T14:12:50.406-08:002013-11-07T14:12:50.406-08:00Alan Aversa, They have met and Mr. Putin is a leap...Alan Aversa, They have met and Mr. Putin is a leap and bound ahead of Obama and he will be un comparison to any neo-con president we may be assaulted by in the near future. This global hegemony doctrine of the US is passé and detrimental. The US needs to practice some humility for the sake of all. I too rejoice in this meeting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-82303962570068854182013-11-07T12:51:38.546-08:002013-11-07T12:51:38.546-08:00My friend, I rejoice with you.
Aged Parent
The Ey...My friend, I rejoice with you.<br /><br />Aged Parent<br />The Eye WitnessAged parenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05217229048176272954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-83304965089605414812013-11-07T11:22:17.268-08:002013-11-07T11:22:17.268-08:00As a Russian Catholic, I can only rejoice at this ...As a Russian Catholic, I can only rejoice at this piece of news.Eugenehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13891510180961601048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-89566825162199843252013-11-07T11:12:43.594-08:002013-11-07T11:12:43.594-08:00Putin will beat Obama, who, to my knowledge, still...Putin will beat Obama, who, to my knowledge, still hasn't met him in person.Geremiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11812810552682098086noreply@blogger.com