tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post6190096234186070239..comments2024-03-28T14:34:49.729-07:00Comments on The Eponymous Flower: Cardinal Müller Decries Church Officials as Amateurish in Their Attacks on SalviniTancredhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-5460233233386518712019-06-04T08:51:08.706-07:002019-06-04T08:51:08.706-07:00
Ïnterpretation: Come to Rome where the streets ar...<br />Ïnterpretation: Come to Rome where the streets are paved with gold<br /><br />ttps://www.vaticannews.va/en/pope/news/2019-06/pope-francis-romania-roma-community-forgiveness.html<br /><br />https://cruxnow.com/church-in-europe/2019/05/22/as-italys-gypsies-struggle-with-stigma-popes-outreach-stands-alone/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-81848271734179152332019-06-04T07:34:48.287-07:002019-06-04T07:34:48.287-07:00X isn’t true just because you say it’s true.X isn’t true just because you say it’s true.Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-15373847210185639932019-06-03T16:54:32.334-07:002019-06-03T16:54:32.334-07:00Custer came second.Custer came second.Peter Wnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-45579693607506076702019-06-03T06:28:46.394-07:002019-06-03T06:28:46.394-07:00The Roman Mass was in its infancy in the Scriptire...The Roman Mass was in its infancy in the Scriptires and the Jewish Synagogue liturgy and Fortesque’s book isn’t a study of the rubrics, but the work of a serious Catholic scholar treating the history of the Mass. If anything is dodgy it’s you.Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-82296073070626160952019-06-02T23:21:13.556-07:002019-06-02T23:21:13.556-07:00A quote from a book of rubrics doesn't support...A quote from a book of rubrics doesn't support your claim one bit. If one was to follow your dodgy logic, then Melchizedek chatted with Noah in Latin. Stone the crows, Tancred.Peter Wnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-86769251620870074192019-06-02T23:10:38.759-07:002019-06-02T23:10:38.759-07:00Since when does a moral relativist care about the ...Since when does a moral relativist care about the historical record? The Roman Rite has its origin in the first century, and that’s a matter of historical fact. No, they didn’t have puppets and parading gays like you and your Bologna School homos like, but it is the most ancient liturgy, confecting the Sacrifice of God’s Son, not a community meal on somebody’s front room table.Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-8047028108813998052019-06-02T20:55:45.695-07:002019-06-02T20:55:45.695-07:00Your unattributed quotation from Fortescue doesn&#...Your unattributed quotation from Fortescue doesn't prove anything beyond demonstrating conclusively that the author is lost in his own circular argument made up of conjecture, guessing, declaring and dodgy semantics. Quoting an expert in rubrics won't necessarily demonstrate historical truth. That is so in this case. <br />You'll have to do a lot better than this, old chap.Peter Watsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-24237740659974047882019-06-02T19:37:02.562-07:002019-06-02T19:37:02.562-07:00Oh, thank you Master Gaybrielle.
Because I don’t s...Oh, thank you Master Gaybrielle.<br />Because I don’t subscribe to your groovy Liturgical bellbottoms I must not understand Litirgy. This is why I delete your posts, because when you play chess with a pigeon, all he does is shit on the board and knock over all the pieces.<br /><br />"The prejudice that imagines that everything Eastern must be old is a mistake. All Eastern rites have been modified later too; some of them quite late. No Eastern rite now used is so archaic as the Roman Mass."Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-1791905656510262052019-06-02T19:03:35.395-07:002019-06-02T19:03:35.395-07:00The Aramaic Syrian/Chaldean Rite dates back to the...The Aramaic Syrian/Chaldean Rite dates back to the second century. The 'Roman Rite' was in its infancy in the fourth century. Read a book Tancred.<br />Peter Wnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-84697777585639280802019-06-02T18:39:41.989-07:002019-06-02T18:39:41.989-07:00Nice Gallagheresque take also, what with the groov...Nice Gallagheresque take also, what with the groovy up—to-date lingo like “bonkers”. Absolutely zanny, honk Honk!Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-5585580299340289342019-06-02T18:36:21.585-07:002019-06-02T18:36:21.585-07:00The Roman Rite is the most ancient Litirgy of them...The Roman Rite is the most ancient Litirgy of them all. Thanks for rehashing tired old fag-end Liturgical Renewal cliches you probabably picked up from your parish priest and leotard clad liturgists and puppeteers of the 70s.<br />Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-69683952532187491642019-06-02T17:39:11.759-07:002019-06-02T17:39:11.759-07:00It was the 1570 version of unreformed rubricism go...It was the 1570 version of unreformed rubricism gone bonkers.<br />The real 'Immemorial' was Jesus last supper with his disciples. It was in Aramaic, celebrated in Greek then in the fourth century, in Latin in a very few places.P Watsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-88670163642043129902019-06-02T02:27:15.697-07:002019-06-02T02:27:15.697-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Peter Watsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-86418264957805833762019-06-01T05:20:29.482-07:002019-06-01T05:20:29.482-07:00Even Schönborn has said the Immemorial Mass.Even Schönborn has said the Immemorial Mass.Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-75203392034327534492019-06-01T05:04:52.963-07:002019-06-01T05:04:52.963-07:00Mueller is more Catholic than I thought, consideri...Mueller is more Catholic than I thought, considering his previous leanings before becoming CDF Prefect. But, if his somewhat conservative, somewhat traditional Catholic comments now are making his fellow German bishops(the rad liberals) angry, he must be doing something right. Didn't he also recently celebrate the TLM somewhere? Something I never thought he would do.<br />Benedict XVI was a great Pope in many ways, especially liturgically, but he did make some bad appointments. Cardinal Marx was one of them.<br />Many people bring up the Peru affair and Cardinal Cipriani Thorne (not Thorpe like Peter W wrote....duh). But you have to remember that Pope Benedict and the Cardinal were/are at least Catholics who saw a heretical situation and wanted to correct it.<br />Francis and the Catholic U. in Peru people are not, which is why the decisive action of Benedict and the Cardinal against the heretical University was quickly overturned by a heretic Pope.<br />Sad but true.<br />Now he's in Romania, still spouting off about migrants.<br />Why doesn't he pack up and become a migrant....back to Argentina. Or better yet, off to Egypt or Somalia or Iran,Saudia Arabia, Yemen, Iraq, Morocco....where I am sure they would welcome him with open arms as one of them! Better there than in Rome.:@)<br />Damian M. Malliapallihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12584033305270174264noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-7193597874679770762019-06-01T04:28:09.597-07:002019-06-01T04:28:09.597-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Peter Wnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-5870905722065778532019-06-01T04:16:32.498-07:002019-06-01T04:16:32.498-07:00I meant Peru
http://eponymousflower.blogspot.com/...I meant Peru<br /><br />http://eponymousflower.blogspot.com/2013/02/secretary-of-state-scolds-new-cdf.html?m=1Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-50064947894286937632019-06-01T04:15:16.010-07:002019-06-01T04:15:16.010-07:00He also wasn’t Benedict’s first choice for CDF and...He also wasn’t Benedict’s first choice for CDF and before he got the office, he was decidedly in the camp of the Sodanos.<br /><br />Witness the tank tracks from the Panzer Pope on his head when he tried to oppose the removal of the title of Pontifical University from Chile University...Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-58472954624857642622019-06-01T04:11:02.288-07:002019-06-01T04:11:02.288-07:00Müller had an ambivalent relationship with Benedic...Müller had an ambivalent relationship with Benedict and things Catholic before he became CDF.<br /><br />It seems to me that he’s playing a scripted role and will roll over and play dead at the right time.Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-34052539695526686952019-06-01T04:10:35.933-07:002019-06-01T04:10:35.933-07:00Constantine--
Maybe he has changed his mind. Vat...Constantine--<br /><br />Maybe he has changed his mind. Vatican II must be abrogated in its entirety. Anyway who else do we have to take Francis place? Sarah? Burke? Neither have a chance in my opinion.Michael Dowdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16650782589323136700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-5777203720277645882019-06-01T03:58:45.866-07:002019-06-01T03:58:45.866-07:00But Cardinal Mueller wad against the SSPX, arguing...But Cardinal Mueller wad against the SSPX, arguing for full acceptance of Vatican II, before integration Constantinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15957650751915614843noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-81578016393678984122019-06-01T03:23:27.070-07:002019-06-01T03:23:27.070-07:00Muller is the Vatican's voice of sanity. Mayb...Muller is the Vatican's voice of sanity. Maybe the next Pope? He seems to have his hat in the ring and his head on the block. The man's got style and guts. Michael Dowdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16650782589323136700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-23911901459192560922019-06-01T02:40:29.267-07:002019-06-01T02:40:29.267-07:00Dear Mr. Watson, One would not know you had such v...Dear Mr. Watson, One would not know you had such vices, if you were not that keen in perceiving them in others. A little Charity would have saved you the humiliating experience. In modern psychology, its called "projection". Projecting your own inadequacies and failures and seeing and imagining them in others. I don't agree with neither your nor the Cardinal's subservience to anything the Pope says, unless it's backed up by an organic development of Scripture and Church writings from the time if the Apostles. That should be your understanding, if you dare call yourself a Catholic. Constantinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15957650751915614843noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-11533675379808011592019-05-31T17:49:42.398-07:002019-05-31T17:49:42.398-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Peter Watsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-15614143455665028092019-05-31T14:50:15.988-07:002019-05-31T14:50:15.988-07:00"Francis in Romania? Arrangement of Romanian ..."Francis in Romania? Arrangement of Romanian Gypsies/Muslims for easy access to Italy."<br /><br />The Pope can not arrange any agreement for Gypsies or Muslims for easy access to Italy....that is the role of the Italian government, and if he were to try it, it would not be allowed.<br />But, all I can say by this action of Francis is "deeper and deeper" he goes into trouble with the Italian people. They for the most part hate him and his people already....if he tried to pull any of this crap in Romania, they'll(the Roman people) will be ready to egg his car when he's driven back from the airport to Casa Santa Martha.<br />The first think out of his mouth when he got to Romania was about migrants(muslims). He really should convert to Islam....for real.<br /><br />Damian M. Malliapallihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12584033305270174264noreply@blogger.com