tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post584581512306117681..comments2024-03-28T02:22:35.857-07:00Comments on The Eponymous Flower: Female "Pastor" Smashes Marian Statue in Brazil to Pieces -- Brazilian Catholics OutragedTancredhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-67291172741834675952017-11-15T10:51:20.427-08:002017-11-15T10:51:20.427-08:00It is a tactic of the demons to get the people to ...It is a tactic of the demons to get the people to leave the Catholic Church. I want to remind that Solomon bowed to his mother and ordered that a throne for her be put near to his. Jesus as king of the universe has enthroned her also.aurorahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12902596990851482938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-91362549780554877882017-01-21T19:30:49.038-08:002017-01-21T19:30:49.038-08:00My priest helped me realize by arguing with or deb...My priest helped me realize by arguing with or debating non-Catholics,we only add fuel to their blasphemy,apostasy,denial,and anger at the One True Church.<br />It would take a St.Paul or St.Vincent Ferrar to convince or convert 21st Century non-Catholic.Let our actions & lives be their inspiration.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-5367991529058796232017-01-19T13:06:31.382-08:002017-01-19T13:06:31.382-08:00@south, your indifference to meaning and truth was...@south, your indifference to meaning and truth was noted long ago.Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-36275211809661404992017-01-19T10:35:06.125-08:002017-01-19T10:35:06.125-08:00Tancred, Your exactly right. The anti-Catholics do...Tancred, Your exactly right. The anti-Catholics do not search for truth, they search for anything they can use to attack the True Church. Didn't Christ abandon groups for acting like the anti-Catholics. We should follow that example and just not listen to the die hard anti-Catholics. Lets attend only to those who are truly searching for the Truth.PaxTecum77http://googlenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-58460268912930593792017-01-19T05:56:55.184-08:002017-01-19T05:56:55.184-08:00You already allowed them to command the language b...You already allowed them to command the language by saying we "worship" Mary.<br /><br /><br />southwillriseagainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07184454753981532261noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-59659299455793641692017-01-19T05:39:08.235-08:002017-01-19T05:39:08.235-08:00You're wrong tancred. Catholics do not worshi...You're wrong tancred. Catholics do not worship Mary, only God.southwillriseagainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07184454753981532261noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-59109584517637777162017-01-18T13:33:45.868-08:002017-01-18T13:33:45.868-08:00Why let Protestants command the language, especial...Why let Protestants command the language, especially when they are linguistically wrong and dishonest?Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-87577593018949732262017-01-18T13:28:15.725-08:002017-01-18T13:28:15.725-08:00When it comes to the word "worship" it h...When it comes to the word "worship" it has different usages in different languages. I have seen some Church Latin translations that speak of the "worship" of the Blessed Virgin. In Spanish we have many Hymns and prayers that say to Our Lady, "Te Adoramos" "Te Adoro Madrecita". Adoro means worship, we worship Our Lady not with the same worship of God. We are not saying to Our Lady that she is the Supreme Being, Creator of Heaven and Earth, a 4th person of the Most Holy Trinity etc... Not at all, we are saying that Our Love for her is the highest honor next to God. Even when a guy says to a girl, I worship the ground you walk on, one is not attributing all of creation to her but only expressing a very deep admiration. Its simple, there is worship that belongs to God alone and there are different types of worship which we practice that is in no way Idolatry. Even the anti-Catholics do this but their arguments are meant only to debase Our Lady.PaxTecum77http://googlenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-80662560603022159992017-01-18T11:18:08.335-08:002017-01-18T11:18:08.335-08:00O.oO.oTancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-31404918578012512582017-01-18T11:00:26.684-08:002017-01-18T11:00:26.684-08:00Tancred, I see that by worship you didn't and ...Tancred, I see that by worship you didn't and don't mean, in any way, adoration, due only to God. I see how etymologically you may have a valid case although I'm not studied to make that judgement. Did you mean that worship might and might not involve adoration? In other words, one can honor a being one adores, and one can honor a being one does not adore.<br /><br />A Catholic may become confused if he fails to make that distinction in the use of the term worship.<br /><br />And the use of the term "worship" could serve as an impediment to conversion to non-Catholic Christians, and non Christians. If they believe, or others tell them, that Catholics worship Mary, and believe that means that we adore her as God, how can we expect them to convert? As Catholics, we need to do our part to effectively remove the misunderstanding. Should Catholics educate the world that worship may or may not be adoration? Is that realistically sufficient in the short or long term? Should Catholics be told to stop using the term worship for the Blessed Mother even if it's not etymologically wrong? Do both? What should be done to bring others to the only True faith? Anonymous TwoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-20072255204914205632017-01-18T09:00:11.988-08:002017-01-18T09:00:11.988-08:00Neither were you charitable. Neither were you charitable. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-43681988629213400302017-01-18T08:57:33.449-08:002017-01-18T08:57:33.449-08:00I wasn't wrong.I wasn't wrong.Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-8368713161325081932017-01-18T08:48:04.424-08:002017-01-18T08:48:04.424-08:00The last thing i would call "Buy a dictionary...The last thing i would call "Buy a dictionary, you won't regret it", said to someone you knew nothing about, is "charitable". "Worship" in modern English (which we are speaking, not Anglo-Saxon) is not synonymous with doulia. It is synonymous with 'latria'. <br />Doulia is synonymous with veneration. <br />Catholics venerate saints, they super-venerate (to put a Latin dress on hyperdoulia) the All-Holy Mother of God, but they certainly do not worship them. <br />It is interesting to follow the origin of words and their paths down the centuries as they change, but they surely do change and have some fixed meaning for a time. Worship in modern standard English now means the adoration due only to God. <br />I look forward to more of your charity. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-24193198563741636962017-01-18T06:37:14.177-08:002017-01-18T06:37:14.177-08:00This is another reason why all Catholics should ma...This is another reason why all Catholics should make the Five First Saturdays. The intention for the fifth First Saturday is to make reparation to the Immaculate Heart of Mary for those who outrage Her in Her holy images.<br /><br />For more information, check out www.fatima.org.<br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-5500485136426094172017-01-18T04:29:32.367-08:002017-01-18T04:29:32.367-08:00Everybody with an internet connection has an opini...Everybody with an internet connection has an opinion, I guess. I thought I was being charitable by trying to exposing the meaning of etymology to a supposed linguist.Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-81686009290916793522017-01-18T02:48:51.653-08:002017-01-18T02:48:51.653-08:00such Christian charity, couldn't both of you r...such Christian charity, couldn't both of you reply in a charitable manner explaining your points of you?Lucianonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-26737809903308356622017-01-18T02:23:41.661-08:002017-01-18T02:23:41.661-08:00So? Since you're such a linguistic squid, you&...So? Since you're such a linguistic squid, you'll know that it's synonymous with veneration or doulia, that fitting reverence which is fitting for things that are less than God.Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-66137676605485199122017-01-17T21:40:48.969-08:002017-01-17T21:40:48.969-08:00Tancred, hi, this is Anonymous (One) again,
My ma...Tancred, hi, this is Anonymous (One) again, <br />My major was Latin, my minor was ancient Greek. Additionally, I studied Biblical Hebrew, Egyptian Hieroglyphics, Syriac, and I was an Arabic linguist in the Navy for a number of years. "Buy a dictionary" - lol. May I suggest you buy a beginner's Catholic catechism? Catholics do not "worship" Mary. That is basic, whatever the Anglo-Saxon origin of the word. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-28625896835027365852017-01-17T17:39:56.425-08:002017-01-17T17:39:56.425-08:00Meh: The word is derived from the Old English weo...Meh: The word is derived from the Old English weorþscipe, meaning worship, honour shown to an object,[1] which has been etymologised as "worthiness or worth-ship"—to give, at its simplest, worth to something.[2]Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-71820673538281055832017-01-17T16:14:20.888-08:002017-01-17T16:14:20.888-08:00Best if you define both terms so one knows what yo...Best if you define both terms so one knows what you meant. I'm a Catholic and I pray the rosary regularly, and ask Mary for her intercession. I worship only God. By worship I mean adoration. By veneration I mean honor, and for God's blessed mother, the highest possible for a human, uniquely possible for her, but not that that which is due to God alone. Anonymous TwoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-24405966575885732272017-01-17T14:59:53.688-08:002017-01-17T14:59:53.688-08:00No, that's what the article itself says.No, that's what the article itself says.Kathleen1031https://www.blogger.com/profile/10201084623185206141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-16799964131534827802017-01-17T13:40:05.677-08:002017-01-17T13:40:05.677-08:00Tancred, I believe his point is that in most cases...Tancred, I believe his point is that in most cases we use worship to refer to that which we owe God alone, and veneration to the blessed. The proper term would be hyperdulia, which is the singular veneration we render to the Mother of God. Most Protestants accuse us of "worshiping" Mary as we also worship God, as an accusation of idolatry. Johnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-55260648056122787752017-01-17T11:52:31.220-08:002017-01-17T11:52:31.220-08:00Given the current ecclesiastical trajectory we wil...Given the current ecclesiastical trajectory we will see this sort of event ever more widespread as the filth of the current aberrance filters down to the grassroots level.<br />Our faith is a rich tapestry. Jettisoning moral practice and adult accountability, debasing the Holy Eucharist -- what would a statue be to the "theologians" and ecclesiastics who promote heresy.<br />Nothing is sacred to them but their own notions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-31355220999407192282017-01-17T09:07:12.198-08:002017-01-17T09:07:12.198-08:00Buy a dictionary, you won't regret it.Buy a dictionary, you won't regret it.Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-70357728579252214592017-01-17T08:38:13.434-08:002017-01-17T08:38:13.434-08:00I'm Roman Catholic first,an American Yankee se...I'm Roman Catholic first,an American Yankee second.<br />I would be outraged and protest if this happened in my metropolitan area!!!!<br />I'm way past worshipping the flag & Constitution!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com