tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post5526627482261683861..comments2024-03-28T15:32:38.398-07:00Comments on The Eponymous Flower: Pope to Kiss the Feet of Prisoners Again on Holy Thursday -- to the Exclusion of the FaithTancredhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comBlogger100125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-65341356869299944902015-03-24T13:45:43.684-07:002015-03-24T13:45:43.684-07:00Will the Holy Eucharist or the Institution of the ...Will the Holy Eucharist or the Institution of the Priesthood be mentioned at the Lords Supper ? I prefer to avoid looking or reading anymore about what the Pope does or says, especially on Holy Thursday. He hardly mentioned the Holy Eucharist last year at the Lords Supper ? God help all of us. The Church is being torn to pieces and yes this is purifying all of us. Just as Jesus died and rose again, so must the Church be purified completely and it is happening and will be moreso in the future. I look to Heaven our eternal Home. Thank God we are just passing through this world. Anabelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-40381806101074927662015-03-17T19:12:55.879-07:002015-03-17T19:12:55.879-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-91804172491331391062015-03-17T19:03:59.145-07:002015-03-17T19:03:59.145-07:00Yes, he'll have th cameras rolling, ah he'...Yes, he'll have th cameras rolling, ah he's so humble, we know that because he told us.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-32919014515851084062015-03-17T19:02:34.772-07:002015-03-17T19:02:34.772-07:00Gabriel, "pope" Francis is a faker and a...Gabriel, "pope" Francis is a faker and a fraud and so are you but who am I to judge?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-51726076865138218412015-03-14T18:56:50.578-07:002015-03-14T18:56:50.578-07:00No, Gabriel, the "overwhelming majority of th...No, Gabriel, the "overwhelming majority of the Faithful" became unfaithful after the introduction of the innovative, man-centred, subverted Mass of 1969. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-45832003830608393272015-03-14T18:55:18.267-07:002015-03-14T18:55:18.267-07:00Absolutely, in honor of Teresa the pope will wash ...Absolutely, in honor of Teresa the pope will wash the feet of women on Holy Thursday. (Tongue in cheek)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-77294853709465937232015-03-14T18:41:32.244-07:002015-03-14T18:41:32.244-07:00No, it is gratuitous assertion. It is fact, Gabrie...No, it is gratuitous assertion. It is fact, Gabriel. It is a fact that your stating that "the overwhelming majority of the Faithful received and welcomed the NO" is a crystal clear example of your having changed the definition of "Faithful," and along with it the meaning of the "Sensus Fidei Fidelium." In your view faithful means nothing but a tithe payer no matter how devilish they live. Well, if that's what faithful means, then sure: the Baptists are equally a part of your Faithful; they pay their tithes and live in unrepentant fornication too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-13122241628763755102015-03-14T17:37:21.280-07:002015-03-14T17:37:21.280-07:00Is there anything happening in Rome to celebrate t...Is there anything happening in Rome to celebrate the 500th anniversary of the birth of St Therese of Avila, doctor of the church, on March 28? <br />Or is that a B.C. event (before the council) so we can pretend it never happened?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-75819303407740223682015-03-14T14:56:33.138-07:002015-03-14T14:56:33.138-07:00No, it's not gratuitous assertion. It is fact,...No, it's not gratuitous assertion. It is fact, Amos. It is a fact that the overwhelming majority of the Faithful received and welcomed the NO is crystal clear example of the validation of the Sensus Fidei Fidelium as described in Lumen Gentium and earlier by Bl John Henry Card. Newman.Gabrielnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-11918128977988276572015-03-14T13:05:10.955-07:002015-03-14T13:05:10.955-07:00More Pope Francis theatre.More Pope Francis theatre.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-7856429318038927202015-03-14T09:55:40.768-07:002015-03-14T09:55:40.768-07:00For much of the last two years, I've hoped for...For much of the last two years, I've hoped for quick end to this papacy and have been heartened by the consistent rumors suggesting Bergoglio will retire around his 80th birthday. Now, however, I've found myself wondering if it really matters whether he quits today or in ten years.<br /><br />The group who elected Bergoglio was supposed to be conservative, yet we got the most liberal pope in Church history. And now because of Bergoglio, the College of cardinals is more liberal than it was on March 13, 2013. So why expect a better result?<br /><br />We've read many Cardinals regret their votes for Bergoglio, but that doesn't mean any of them were or will be looking for the next Pius XII. Men like Ranjith, Burke, Piacenza, Bagnasco, and Pell have little chance of becoming pope. Heck, even Scola couldn't get it done and he was all but Benedict's hand picked successor. And Maroglia likely wouldn't stand a chance either if Bergoglio were ever to give him a red hat.<br /><br />So while things just continue to get worse under Bergoglio, I'm not sure a new conclave will solve anything. Very likely, Tagle will be the defacto choice of the Martini/Bergoglio gang. Basically, that would be like Montini following Roncalli. And should there be enough resistance to him, then Perolin.<br /><br />If only Siri had won in 1978.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-12678374706554242722015-03-14T08:52:10.091-07:002015-03-14T08:52:10.091-07:00What abuot the extraordinary jubilee of Mercy? It&...What abuot the extraordinary jubilee of Mercy? It's really cute and cool.....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-67086318714867369482015-03-14T05:13:39.899-07:002015-03-14T05:13:39.899-07:00We are told to imitate Christ but as it pertains t...We are told to imitate Christ but as it pertains to Holy Thursday Mass Pope Francis refuses to imitate Christ in departing from public places into a special place where He instituted the Eucharist and the Priesthood.<br /><br />Of course, one would expect the Vicar of Christ to offer the Holy Thursday Mass in a consecrated Catholic Church and wash the feet of men but we know that is not what Pope Francis is going to do.<br /><br />Jesus is the way?<br /><br />Apparently not ,for Pope Francis has instituted the novel way and, other than complaining about what he does, the poor layman has nothing he can do for the Pope has the power, but he is fast losing the masses of even neo-caths.<br /><br />The act is getting tiresome.Mick Jagger Gathers No Mosquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12879499915093940176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-52410349208439054032015-03-14T04:17:52.095-07:002015-03-14T04:17:52.095-07:00The washing of feet should be taken out of the par...The washing of feet should be taken out of the parish Holy Thursday Mass and moved to the Chrism Mass, attended only by the bishops and all his priests.<br /><br />Mariehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00003965922434128196noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-70813136734139547512015-03-14T02:07:08.183-07:002015-03-14T02:07:08.183-07:00Gabriel wrote:
“The liturgy serves the Church not...Gabriel wrote:<br /><br />“The liturgy serves the Church not the other way around.”<br />The liturgy serves for the glorification of God first and the edification of the people second. This is basic stuff.<br /><br />Gabriel wrote:<br />“Paul VI with the support of the Bishops and with the validation later of St John Paul II decided that the NO was the express will of the Second Vatican Ecumenical Council.”<br /><br />A disciplinary procedure that can admit prudential error. What’s more absurd is that God allowed the Church to function with various liturgies for well over a 1,000 years that looked nothing like the Novus Ordo but more closer to the 1570 missal, throughout different times periods and cultures, until our glorious awaking in the 20th century. Sounds protestant right?<br /><br />Gabriel wrote:<br /><br />“Mass of Pius V, after four hundred years, had fulfilled its work of service until Benedict authorized its use again. However, it is abundantly clear that he desire an hybrid Mass, combining elements of the NO and the Mass of 1570, to be known as Mutual Enrichment.”<br /><br />See? Benedict’s will contradicts Paul VI. Let’s throw in Pius XII too. All three have a different opinion on the liturgy, not all of them can be right. Do you see where I am going? Someone (maybe all?) can be wrong here. Heck in 50 years you can have an entirely new opinion from a Pope. We don’t work like positivists you know. <br />Amosnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-56228861613057615322015-03-14T02:00:00.465-07:002015-03-14T02:00:00.465-07:00"the 2800 bishops of the Second Ecumenical Co..."the 2800 bishops of the Second Ecumenical Council including Paul VI who was one of them, understood perfectly well what they were doing when they set aside the Mass of Pius V as having fulfilled its function and established the vernacular as normative for the Universal Church."<br /><br />Another gratuitous assertion.Amosnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-79882577741549696662015-03-14T01:52:48.539-07:002015-03-14T01:52:48.539-07:00Are we missing something here? Pope Francis is not...Are we missing something here? Pope Francis is not doing this in a liturgical setting so why do we care?<br /><br />Gabriel wrote:<br />“If you follow to its conclusions the logic of the tradition about only men (the Twelve) were present at the Last Supper and therefore only male feet were washed, then you would have to say that only bishops should be present at the Commemoration of the Lord's Supper.”<br /><br />False. Priests, deacons, and sub-deacons are an extension of the powers of a bishop. Therefore, at least during the Mass itself, only these men should have their feet washed. There was a tradition of the Pope washing the feet of poor people after the liturgy, so I am not sure there is a problem here with him doing that but your statements are odd.<br /><br />Gabriel wrote:<br />“If Catholicism is by some kind of divine obligation to continue forming its theology out of an undifferentiated Patristic semiotic then the Church will be forever trapped in the treadmill of free association.” <br /><br />This is insidious thinking that throws away all organic development from continuity, a thought pattern that admits eventual contradicts within liturgical development as something accepted and not merely demanding reform or pruning.<br /><br />In fact, your defense of this practice reflects what the Popes did in the 12 century. Are you defending a development from the Middle Ages or something novel from the post-modern period? Are you defending an ever-changing liturgy the will contradict itself from age to age in its non-dogmatic practices – a tenant of neo-Modernism? There are many other treadmills here.<br /><br />“Example: Clearly Pius V did not feel obliged to include the Anaphora of Mari and Addai in the Unforgettable Mass of 1570.”<br /><br />What does that have to do with the topic? Are we going to explore the limits of Pius V and his commission on their liturgical reform? No one here is arguing freezing the liturgy in the patristic time period like a bunch of antiquarians. <br /><br /><br /><br />Amosnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-46701341683479998992015-03-14T01:13:39.745-07:002015-03-14T01:13:39.745-07:00Like the Pope I wonder if Gabriel is even Catholi...Like the Pope I wonder if Gabriel is even Catholic. There is no Catholic sense in either of them...a spiritual blindness - poor things ...the fact is they are both quite tediously, superfcially, unattractive in their approach to Catholicism.<br /><br />The modernists of course are big on "dialogue" with everyone but Traditional Catholics...meaning that they are not interested in the objective truth Divinely revealed... neither is Gabriel or Pope Francis.<br /><br />Gabriel is a pompus windbag, a provoker , no humilty...empty rhetoric ... in a word, poor thing, slave to his own opinions and self. ...a prayer for him and Pope Francis...who is the same and is making the papacy into his own image and likeness. It's incredible - but that's what he's doing! May God forgive him for all the damage he has managed to do in such a short space of time...quite frankly I have very negative feelings when I see or hear him ...but I don't want anyone to end up keeping the devil company for ever and ever...no I don't wish that on anyone..not even the worst pope in history ...who risks damning many souls because of his constant , backtracking, ambiguous "teachings"....what Catholic in their right mind cannot see this and can stand him?<br /><br />He is no friend of Christ Our Lord. Terrifying as her's supposed to be His Vicar.<br /><br /><br /><br />M.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-1465098102716738242015-03-13T22:50:43.923-07:002015-03-13T22:50:43.923-07:00No wait, I found it The Apocalypse: The Perennial ...No wait, I found it <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Apocalypse-Perennial-Revelation-Christ-Studies/dp/089453310X/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1426311976&sr=1-1-fkmr0&keywords=Francis+J.+Moloney+revelation" rel="nofollow">The Apocalypse: The Perennial Revelation of Jesus Christ (Good News Studies Vol. 5) by Francis Maloney</a> $70 used, $4,896.01 new. Must be REALLY good at that price.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-47194574219794284502015-03-13T22:48:00.483-07:002015-03-13T22:48:00.483-07:00You wouldn't happen to have a link to somewher...You wouldn't happen to have a link to somewhere I can find that commentary on Revelation would you? Because google searches bring up a commentary on the gospels by a Francis J Moloney but I can't find a commentary on Revelation. And just searching Frank Maloney unfortunately brings up crap about a transvestite boxer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-55159204030860809842015-03-13T22:27:42.288-07:002015-03-13T22:27:42.288-07:00I suggest you read Prof Frank Moloney's commen...I suggest you read Prof Frank Moloney's commentary on the Book of Revelation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-83564709681603324302015-03-13T22:25:01.362-07:002015-03-13T22:25:01.362-07:00so roughly corresponding to 2016 election timeso roughly corresponding to 2016 election timeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-19579633584415820632015-03-13T22:06:00.794-07:002015-03-13T22:06:00.794-07:00I do not doubt that Gaybriel was baptized a Cathol...I do not doubt that Gaybriel was baptized a Catholic and even went to study in a seminary. What's more, I wouldn't be surprised if he a religious brother or a "deacon," as he puts it. Maybe even a priest in a chancery somewhere along the coast.Barnumnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-83911691376433635252015-03-13T20:12:42.872-07:002015-03-13T20:12:42.872-07:00In fact Bergoglio is so enamored of the idea he mi...In fact Bergoglio is so enamored of the idea he might impose term limits on papacies after the example of the American Presidents.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-31321878123149609702015-03-13T20:09:16.057-07:002015-03-13T20:09:16.057-07:00Well according to Bergoglio's interview today,...Well according to Bergoglio's interview today, Benedict becoming Pope Emeritus created an institution of Pope Emeritai, so Gabriel you can look forward to one heretical pope after another reigning over the RCC for 2 or 3 years, retiring, and forming a sort of Vatican lobby of Pope Emeritai to strong arm and bully the next pope into continuing the Vatican II agenda with respect to the liturgy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com