tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post4014763523101163554..comments2024-03-28T08:42:07.659-07:00Comments on The Eponymous Flower: The Assumption of the Blessed Virgin MaryTancredhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comBlogger52125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-79625501671325598822019-08-30T10:03:39.971-07:002019-08-30T10:03:39.971-07:00You asked for a Church Father who teaches that Our...You asked for a Church Father who teaches that Our Blessed Lady is Mediatrix of all graces. There you have it. Padre Pio sounds soundly taught the doctrine as well. <br /><br />A mariology presupposing enmity between Our Blessed Lady and the devil is most Catholic. From Genesis to Revelation. Nothing outdated about Our Lady of Fatima or La Salette on that score. As we sing in the Ave Stella Maris, Our Lady “reverses the deeds and even the name of Eva....”<br /><br />Also from the pen of the great St. Bernard of Clairvaux. <br /><br />AVE maris stella,<br />Dei Mater alma,<br />atque semper Virgo,<br />felix caeli porta. <br /><br />HAIL, O Star of the ocean,<br />God's own Mother blest,<br />ever sinless Virgin,<br />gate of heav'nly rest.<br /><br />Sumens illud Ave<br />Gabrielis ore,<br />funda nos in pace,<br />mutans Hevae nomen. <br /><br />Taking that sweet Ave,<br />which from Gabriel came,<br />peace confirm within us,<br />changing Eve's name.<br /><br />Solve vincula reis,<br />profer lumen caecis<br />mala nostra pelle,<br />bona cuncta posce. <br /><br />Break the sinners' fetters,<br />make our blindness day,<br />Chase all evils from us,<br />for all blessings pray.<br /><br />Monstra te esse matrem:<br />sumat per te preces,<br />qui pro nobis natus,<br />tulit esse tuus. <br /><br />Show thyself a Mother,<br />may the Word divine<br />born for us thine Infant<br />hear our prayers through thine.<br /><br />Virgo singularis,<br />inter omnes mites,<br />nos culpis solutos,<br />mitis fac et castos. <br /><br />Virgin all excelling,<br />mildest of the mild,<br />free from guilt preserve us<br />meek and undefiled.<br /><br />Vitam praesta puram,<br />iter para tutum:<br />ut videntes Iesum<br />semper collaetemur. <br /><br />Keep our life all spotless,<br />make our way secure<br />till we find in Jesus,<br />joy for evermore.<br /><br />Sit laus Deo Patri,<br />summo Christo decus,<br />Spiritui Sancto,<br />tribus honor unus. Amen.BrotherBeowulfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08371505680325407418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-83914257787755020832019-08-29T16:09:58.489-07:002019-08-29T16:09:58.489-07:00Bernard of Clairvaux articulates his theology of M...Bernard of Clairvaux articulates his theology of Mary in terms of the prevailing court etiquette of his time when often compassionate Queen mother figures tempered the excesses of their royal son(s). Salette, Fatima etc are the successors of this where the punishing arm of a very bad tempered and vengeful Son of God his held back by his Mother who then triggers the guilt pathology by saying, 'My arm is becoming very tired....' <br />The underpinning Mariology, like his predecessors, is rooted in Gen 3: 15.PWnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-77948081766861731752019-08-29T01:38:01.672-07:002019-08-29T01:38:01.672-07:00Father and Doctor of the Church St. Bernard said: ...Father and Doctor of the Church St. Bernard said: “The Lord gives nothing but what passes through the hands of the Queen of Heaven.”BrotherBeowulfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08371505680325407418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-60331542142023142272019-08-29T01:34:52.269-07:002019-08-29T01:34:52.269-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.BrotherBeowulfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08371505680325407418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-44572420922679209992019-08-28T16:21:56.502-07:002019-08-28T16:21:56.502-07:00Pulling the elsewhere despised Taylor Marshall out...Pulling the elsewhere despised Taylor Marshall out of hat like a bunny rabbit is a pathetic capitulation on your sweeping claim that the teaching on Mary as mediatrix of grace is "widely supported by the Church Father’s" (sic.<br />Marshall cites two, neither of whom says anything about Mary Mediatrix. What they do is what the Fathers always did and that was to comment on Scripture albeit from an embellished eisegetical perspective. <br />All that the two Marshall cites offer is their own extrapolations on Gen 3: 15.<br />You need to do better than this. Peter Watsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-84484332813412034982019-08-28T05:35:03.300-07:002019-08-28T05:35:03.300-07:00You’re the self-proclaimed expert.
https://taylor...You’re the self-proclaimed expert.<br /><br />https://taylormarshall.com/2010/12/mary-as-mediatrix-in-church-fathers.htmlTancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-21518249523129801852019-08-27T14:46:43.218-07:002019-08-27T14:46:43.218-07:00Reference? And where too do the other other Father...Reference? And where too do the other other Fathers of the Church teach that Mary is the Mediatrix of all graces? PWnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-50934755425724869672019-08-27T12:50:52.668-07:002019-08-27T12:50:52.668-07:00At Ephesus he said that all the sacraments flow th...At Ephesus he said that all the sacraments flow through Mary.Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-91331648597192232152019-08-26T16:56:37.163-07:002019-08-26T16:56:37.163-07:00Cyril is one of the Church Fathers but he doesn...Cyril is one of the Church Fathers but he doesn't mention Mary as 'Mediatrix of all graces' which is the matter being discussed and where are the other Fathers of the Church you mentioned in the straw clutching ambit claim?<br />Who's desperate now, o feckless and clueless one?<br />PWnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-87933726014523481922019-08-26T09:13:47.088-07:002019-08-26T09:13:47.088-07:00
“Hail, Mary, Mother of God, by whom all faithful ...<br />“Hail, Mary, Mother of God, by whom all faithful souls are saved”<br />-Saint Cyril of AlexandriaTancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-44658490816128729342019-08-26T09:11:25.094-07:002019-08-26T09:11:25.094-07:00You sound desperate.You sound desperate.Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-60110442522366981442019-08-26T08:24:54.430-07:002019-08-26T08:24:54.430-07:00Foot in mouth again. Business as usual.Foot in mouth again. Business as usual.PWnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-30895386002536078292019-08-26T05:57:20.229-07:002019-08-26T05:57:20.229-07:00Ridiculous.
“Peace on Earth to Men of Good Will”
...Ridiculous.<br /><br />“Peace on Earth to Men of Good Will”<br /><br />Prove that it was all men of good will that was meant. It might have been a few men of good will left out.Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-79250691152427410832019-08-25T20:31:51.533-07:002019-08-25T20:31:51.533-07:00Which Church Fathers have written on Mary as Media...Which Church Fathers have written on Mary as Mediatix of (all) grace and what are the exact references to this in their works?Peter Watsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-53584407934872879672019-08-25T19:33:04.368-07:002019-08-25T19:33:04.368-07:00It’s widely supported by the Church Father’s, but ...It’s widely supported by the Church Father’s, but it doesn’t matter, you’re probabably more worried about offending Hugenots and Walensians than exposition of Catholic truth.Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-30715865427989501632019-08-25T18:44:32.393-07:002019-08-25T18:44:32.393-07:00Put up the evidence for the big 'Mediatrix'...Put up the evidence for the big 'Mediatrix' claim, Tancred. PWnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-33143699859200827582019-08-25T14:57:09.192-07:002019-08-25T14:57:09.192-07:00Support for Mary as Mediatrix of Graces is far mor...Support for Mary as Mediatrix of Graces is far more ancient than even your own modernist credo, which only goes back to the pyramids.Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-63989641347569134142019-08-24T17:03:34.967-07:002019-08-24T17:03:34.967-07:00You feel at home in the 19th century so why don...You feel at home in the 19th century so why don't you drop by Leo XIII for a cup of tea and a quiet chat. You can put your questions to him then. Do tell the reader how it all transpired. PWnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-32963967159455247682019-08-24T07:45:24.741-07:002019-08-24T07:45:24.741-07:00
Do you know which graces she’s not responsible fo...<br />Do you know which graces she’s not responsible for, then?<br /><br />Does he bypass Mary, in other words, for “graces” involving the salvific nature of non-Catholic sects, or all the saints cranked out in John Paul II’s saint factory, or the ministries of model prelates like Bishop Cawcutt, Uncle Ted, Donna and Der Commie Kardinal Marx?Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-89661377127411806462019-08-19T16:47:32.500-07:002019-08-19T16:47:32.500-07:00In his 1894 Encyclical "Octobri Mense", ...In his 1894 Encyclical "Octobri Mense", Pope Leo XIII wrote:<br /><br /> "The recourse we have to Mary in prayer follows upon the office she continuously fills by the side of the throne of God as Mediatrix of Divine grace" <br /><br />He does not say, of 'all' Divine grace. The reserve Leo shows is an important indication that the difference between orthodoxy and heterodoxy can be as close as one word. Leo's Mariology, thought keeping with the convolution of the times, is essentially reserved, just like Pius XII's dogma of the Assumption.Peter Watsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-34221671845851386692019-08-19T15:36:06.391-07:002019-08-19T15:36:06.391-07:00The tentative belief of "Mary Mediatrix of Al...The tentative belief of "Mary Mediatrix of All Graces" that is proposed by many is not that alk graces come through Mary, but rather, that all intercessions performed by the saints go through Mary first, before going to God. Constantinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15957650751915614843noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-90050084225050402512019-08-19T14:23:08.016-07:002019-08-19T14:23:08.016-07:00Tancred, Martin, the poster of the article claimed...Tancred, Martin, the poster of the article claimed, without evidence, that:<br /><br />"Anything God does he does through Mary, and that would include the inspiration of Holy Scripture. It was Mary who inspired the evangelists to write and complete the Scriptures. This was her work, or better said, God working through Her. But nonetheless her work. The entirety of the work of God is executed through Her." <br /><br />He is unable or unwilling to show where the Church teaches these things in the Deposit of Faith. I think he cannot because these are heterodox claims that are not supported in Church teaching.<br /><br />It would not be outlandish to expect that if a person made allegations about you in public, court for instance, then you would justifiably be entitled to see evidence. There are not free passes or exemptions. It's not rocket science.Peter Watsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-46681309280830729632019-08-19T14:22:51.183-07:002019-08-19T14:22:51.183-07:00Joe Biden just announced when questioned that ther...Joe Biden just announced when questioned that there are three sexes (at least). There is a male and female response to the Word of God. Mary engenders respect as the chosen vehicle for the entrance of the Christ into the human race. "Blessed are thou among women and blessed is the fruit of thy womb". "Do unto me according to Thy word." It is the goal of man (woman) to find out the "chosen path" for each one in line with the Will of God. Personal fulfillment is just not part of the plan. As the song warbles so well, "that's the way love goes".JBQhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09344181644293746758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-62096418805333395412019-08-19T14:04:47.245-07:002019-08-19T14:04:47.245-07:00You're the ones that are fools, it's not C...You're the ones that are fools, it's not Christian like to call names, Jesus gave us his mother at the foot of the Cross and she is the Mediatrix of graces along with her son Jesus. Jesus, Mary I love you save souls!Diana Contrerashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04541275438960988920noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-51472990518511490332019-08-19T12:37:15.495-07:002019-08-19T12:37:15.495-07:00T...there's no arguing reason with him; this i...T...there's no arguing reason with him; this is a jackass who thinks that Jesus is an auditory sensation of God....not God Himself. Feybriel takes Teilhardian idiocy to a new level of idiocy. Even Teilhard would disown him...if the former wasn't most probably burning in hell (with no way to expel a vocal sensation).susannoreply@blogger.com