tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post3444727932328791887..comments2024-03-19T06:25:10.530-07:00Comments on The Eponymous Flower: Pope Francis Abolishes Celibacy Tancredhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comBlogger43125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-81125008172023892892020-03-03T07:56:09.494-08:002020-03-03T07:56:09.494-08:00Sounds like the commenter "Constantine" ...Sounds like the commenter "Constantine" is a Donatist. <br />https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donatism<br /><br />Thankfully, the issue of ordination was settled in the Orthodox church.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-47568773812762289592020-02-14T18:37:09.040-08:002020-02-14T18:37:09.040-08:00When the post's thesis crashes and burns, what...When the post's thesis crashes and burns, what a brilliant distraction to throw in a bar or two of cloying French sacerdotal narcissism accompanied by a litany of incoherent stream of consciousness drivel. It is this kind of spirituality that was a trigger for the French Revolution and many after that.<br />PWnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-32382910215942058922020-02-12T00:06:28.804-08:002020-02-12T00:06:28.804-08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.PWnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-71287973674122823902020-02-11T20:42:37.273-08:002020-02-11T20:42:37.273-08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.PWnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-5423500038008867802020-02-11T14:53:35.224-08:002020-02-11T14:53:35.224-08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-69528195638162499142020-02-11T10:38:20.871-08:002020-02-11T10:38:20.871-08:00None actually confront the historical facts, which...None actually confront the historical facts, which are as follows:<br />1. Pope Benedict, as the man who is the pope, renounced the ministerium in his declaration of Feb. 11, 2013.<br />2. Canon 332 §2 says a Roman Pontiff renounces when he renounces the munus.<br />3. Canon 17 says that Canon 332 § must be read in accord with the Code of Canon Law’s usage of terms, canonical tradition, and the mind of its legislator, Pope John Paul II.<br />4. Benedict behavior after Feb. 28, 2013, shows that he retains the papal dignity in all respects.<br />5. The idea that Benedict’s renunciation of ministerium means a renunciation of the papacy comes from a tweet by Giovanna Chirri, an ANSA reporter, minutes following the Consistory of Feb. 11, 2013.<br />6. No meeting of canonists was called to examine the act of the Renunciation to determine if it was valid or not.<br />7. The Vatican has never officially claimed that the renunciation was valid.<br />8. The Cardinals have never claimed that they did anything to verify that the See was Vacant before meeting in the Conclave of 2013 to elect Jorge Mario Bergoglio.<br />9. Jorge Mario Bergoglio is a public manifest and pertinacious heretic, idolater and fomenter of schisms, who by divine right cannot be a member of the Catholic Church, let alone hold any office in Her.<br />10. The Church has NEVER taught that the Cardinals or Bishops or even all the clergy are infallible in matters of canonical interpretations or knowledge of historical facts.<br />Instead, these “Bergoglio is certainly the pope” Catholics take another route. They hold that the solidarity of opinion of the vast majority, who say Bergoglio is the pope, is more authoritative than:<br />1. God who is infallible by nature.<br />2. Christ Jesus who created the office of Saint Peter and promised it infallibility.<br />3. Christ Jesus’ Prayer for the person of the Pope that his faith may NEVER fail.<br />4. The First Vatican Council in its decree, Pastor Aeternus.<br />5. The Code of Canon Law of 1983 promulgated by the Vicar of Jesus Christ, Pope John Paul II.<br />6. The words of Pope Benedict himself during and after the Renunciation of Feb. 11, 2013.” - Rene Henry Gracida is a Roman Catholic bishop. He is Bishop Emeritus of the Diocese of Corpus Christi, having served as the Fifth Ordinary, or Diocesan Bishop, of that Diocese from May 19, 1983 until his retirement on April 1, 1997. The title of his Blog, Abyssus Abyssum Invocat his episcopal motto and is taken from the 41/42/43 rd Psalm.”Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-40831928326377545082020-02-11T10:35:51.210-08:002020-02-11T10:35:51.210-08:00“Does it make ANY sense to you on ANY level that G...“Does it make ANY sense to you on ANY level that God Almighty would RATIFY an illegitimate, illegal, unlawful, canonically invalid papal election… as long as “everybody goes along with it.”<br /><br />Of course not.<br /><br />“Queen and Mother, stretch thy arms to us, raise us up to thy Immaculate and Sorrowful Heart. Allow us to rest our heads on thy heart and thus become saints and apostles! Queen of the Holy Rosary grant us the strength to fight thy enemies!”<br /><br />In all cases, among all people, regardless of one’s beliefs, desires, inclinations, orientation, acts of depravity are always a perversion of authentic Love, for authentic Life-affirming and Life-sustaining Love, is always rightly ordered to the inherent personal and relational Dignity of the persons existing in a relationship of Love and thus devoid of every form of lust. Acts of depravity, in all cases, amongst all people, are a perversion of Love, and thus, in all cases, amongst all people, acts of depravity, are devoid of Love.<br /><br />Acts of depravity serve an “unquenchable desire for lust”, in all cases, among all people, regardless of one’s beliefs, desires, inclinations, orientation, acts of depravity are sinful.<br /><br /><br />Acceptance of a schismatic, who, prior to his election as pope, claimed that sin done in private was not sin, Jorge Bergoglio, who denied Christ’s teaching regarding sexual sin and thus The Sanctity of the marital act within The Sacrament Of Holy Matrimony, and thus, having opposed every previously validly elected Pope, cannot possibly be The Vicar Of Christ.<br /><br />This is what Jorge Bergoglio said, in regards to same-sex sexual relationships, and thus same-sex sexual acts, prior to his election as pope, on page 117 of his book, On Heaven And Earth, demonstrating that he does not hold, keep, or teach The Catholic Faith, and he continues to act accordingly:<br />“If there is a union of a private nature, there is neither a third party, nor is society affected. Now, if the union is given the category of marriage, there could be children affected. Every person needs a male father and a female mother that can help shape their identity.”- Jorge Bergoglio, denying The Sanctity of the marital act within The Sacrament of Holy Matrimony, and the fact that God, The Most Holy And Undivided Blessed Trinity, Through The Unity Of The Holy Ghost, Is The Author Of Love, Of Life, And Of Marriage, while denying sin done in private is sin.<br /><br />“1849 Sin is an offense against reason, truth, and right conscience; it is failure in genuine love for God and neighbor caused by a perverse attachment to certain goods. It wounds the nature of man and injures human solidarity. It has been defined as "an utterance, a deed, or a desire contrary to the eternal law."121<br />1850 Sin is an offense against God: "Against you, you alone, have I sinned, and done that which is evil in your sight."122 Sin sets itself against God's love for us and turns our hearts away from it. Like the first sin, it is disobedience, a revolt against God through the will to become "like gods,"123 knowing and determining good and evil. Sin is thus "love of oneself even to contempt of God."124 In this proud self- exaltation, sin is diametrically opposed to the obedience of Jesus, which achieves our salvation.125“<br /><br />"Neither is someone a schismatic for denying his subjection to the Pontiff on the grounds that he has solidly founded ['probabiliter'] doubts concerning the legitimacy of his election or his power." de Lugo: Disp., De Virt. Fid. Div., disp xxv, sect iii, nn. 35-8<br /><br />"Nor is there any schism if......one suspects the person of the pope or the validity of his election, or if one resists him as the civil head of a state." Szal, Rev Ignatius: Communication of Catholics with Schismatics, CUA, 1948, p.2”<br /><br />Jorge Bergoglio’s heresy is manifestly evident, external, and is public and notorious.<br /><br />“F8] But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach a gospel to you besides that which we have preached to you, let him be anathema.”<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-636834472527227342020-02-11T07:40:06.536-08:002020-02-11T07:40:06.536-08:00
If the priest is a saint, the people will be ferv...<br />If the priest is a saint, the people will be fervent;<br /><br />if the priest is fervent, the people will be pious;<br /><br />if the priest is pious, the people will at least be decent;<br /><br />if the priest is only decent, the people will be godless.<br /><br />The spiritual generation is always one-degree less intense in its life than the one who begets it in Christ.<br /><br />( Dom Jean-Baptiste Chautard, O.C.S.O. The Soul of the Apostolate, p. 39)Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-88941777733959956492020-02-10T19:20:35.982-08:002020-02-10T19:20:35.982-08:00And making dust trailsAnd making dust trailsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-9658884762214024432020-02-10T17:41:33.057-08:002020-02-10T17:41:33.057-08:00No its not smoke, it is a deeply held belief even ...No its not smoke, it is a deeply held belief even from Old Testament times. Ivory tower elites are snotty and condescending of the common man. These pseudointellectuals are the same sophists that murdered Socrates. Belief that learning comes more from universities than intuition and common sense is the false thinking of the Enlightenment.Constantinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15957650751915614843noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-8537077900329789772020-02-10T17:35:17.802-08:002020-02-10T17:35:17.802-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Constantinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15957650751915614843noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-17348989486899622102020-02-10T16:51:57.598-08:002020-02-10T16:51:57.598-08:00Making smokeMaking smokeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-72664063505684446672020-02-10T15:48:56.030-08:002020-02-10T15:48:56.030-08:00Correction:Meant Able's offer was better then...Correction:Meant Able's offer was better then Cain. But my point is still clear and theologically justifiable. The Sspx and Fsspx prefer the Tridentine Mass and Sacraments. Constantinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15957650751915614843noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-68654115614990430292020-02-10T14:49:52.837-08:002020-02-10T14:49:52.837-08:00Not all sources of Revelations are written. But it...Not all sources of Revelations are written. But its why one would prefer to go to a Tridentine Mass. Its why most believers would prefer to be confessed or baptized by Padre Pio or a Saintly priest. Its why someone would prefer to gey Sacraments from a priest, rather than a lay person. Its why in Leviticus God required rules for a kosher oblation. Its why Cain's offer was more pleasing to God, and God was more gracious with Cain and not Able. Its why we run to a good and holy priest than the average gutter trash we find among clergy.And its always been like that throughout ages.Constantinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15957650751915614843noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-23826138259867458942020-02-10T14:44:25.561-08:002020-02-10T14:44:25.561-08:00The magnificent Roman Catholic Church-
30-34 A.D....The magnificent Roman Catholic Church-<br /><br />30-34 A.D.-2020 A.D.<br /><br />R.I.P.<br /><br />Damian M.MalliapalliAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-69768898122776895652020-02-10T14:25:07.482-08:002020-02-10T14:25:07.482-08:00"...graces are reduced depending on who is of..."...graces are reduced depending on who is offering the Mass." The Church teaches that grace comes from God through the Sacraments and is not in anyway dependent on worthiness or otherwise of the celebrant.<br /><br />What are the sources for your argument that is contrary to Church teaching from the patristic age?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-58292300604971026882020-02-10T07:19:42.785-08:002020-02-10T07:19:42.785-08:00Graces are graces, but graces are reduced dependin...Graces are graces, but graces are reduced depending on who is offering the Mass. Which is why many prefer to go not to a Bugnini/ Pauline Mass, but rather to a Tridentine. The hope is that the older Mass, being more reverant, can provide more Graces.Constantinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15957650751915614843noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-12404686476691199862020-02-10T02:30:42.917-08:002020-02-10T02:30:42.917-08:00You're contradicting yourself again Constantin...You're contradicting yourself again Constantine. The Church teaches that it is the work of the Holy Spirit through the Sacraments themselves that grace is communicated not the person or disposition of the priest. Grace is grace regardless of whether a Sacrament is celebrated by Pope Alexander VI or Padre Pio.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-34938747967409614382020-02-09T20:31:32.541-08:002020-02-09T20:31:32.541-08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Peter Wilkinsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-48730588353178224592020-02-09T20:16:25.616-08:002020-02-09T20:16:25.616-08:00Augustine and the Church Fathers argued that the ...Augustine and the Church Fathers argued that the sacraments are valid by a priest in sin, even though the priest did not believe and preach that Christ is fully Coequal to God the Father. From a heretical disobedient sinner priest the Sacraments are nominally valid. But that does not mean that the Sacrament, whose Graces come through the priest to the people carries all the Graces it should contain. The more holy the priest, the more holy Graces are given to a Congregation. Receiving Communion from a higher ranking or holier clergymen, such as a pope, would also more likely confer a greater degree of grace on communicants. Furthermore, a priest who does not intend to effectuate a sacrament as the Church has traditionally understood it, the intent required by the Church, then the Sacrament is not validly effectuated at all.Constantinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15957650751915614843noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-65982240242840541632020-02-09T19:40:44.192-08:002020-02-09T19:40:44.192-08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Peter Watsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-31095905436004539692020-02-09T18:11:39.596-08:002020-02-09T18:11:39.596-08:00I have great hope in this pope<b> I have great hope in this pope </b>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-53336685859228258342020-02-09T14:49:16.740-08:002020-02-09T14:49:16.740-08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.PWnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-41851417517358473182020-02-09T08:45:34.093-08:002020-02-09T08:45:34.093-08:00Sipe has an agenda to promote which has nothing to...Sipe has an agenda to promote which has nothing to do with the Catholic Faith.Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-48780464605796442572020-02-08T21:29:45.378-08:002020-02-08T21:29:45.378-08:00No Francis, you do not, cannot abolish Celibacy in...No Francis, you do not, cannot abolish Celibacy in the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church that follows Christ and His teaching. Bye, bye, enjoy your New Francis Church. Please do not forget to leave the Keys on St. Peter's Chair on your way out. <br />Tess.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06899937611810161594noreply@blogger.com