tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post2524892227411058144..comments2024-03-28T08:42:07.659-07:00Comments on The Eponymous Flower: Weak Reaction to UN Attack Against Church -- Bishops' Synod to Attack "Humanae Vitae"?Tancredhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-52577751353695656102014-03-14T08:35:53.388-07:002014-03-14T08:35:53.388-07:00Yes. The catholic church has always promoted the d...Yes. The catholic church has always promoted the dignity of marriage in conformity with Natural Law.<br />It cannot therefore alter the moral teaching concerning artificial contraception.<br />In addition it cannot alter the age old moral teaching concerning<br />worthy reception of Holy Communion by re-married divorced persons.<br />Nor can it devolve doctrinal authority on serious moral issues to national bishops conferences.<br />Should any changes as outlined above occur in this upcoming <br />October Bishops Synod then the moral foundations of the church will have been destroyed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-89113524811037628202014-02-19T04:46:53.658-08:002014-02-19T04:46:53.658-08:00The catholic church has always taught that the use...The catholic church has always taught that the use of artificial contraceptives was a grave moral evil.<br />Humanae Vitae re- affirmed that teaching.<br />Therefore any abandonment or reversal of such teaching would seriously undermine the moral foundations of that churchAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-18296998314391673912014-02-17T04:36:27.736-08:002014-02-17T04:36:27.736-08:00http://books.google.com/books?id=KvPPAAAAMAAJ&...http://books.google.com/books?id=KvPPAAAAMAAJ&q=inauthor:%22James+Michael+Reardon%22&dq=inauthor:%22James+Michael+Reardon%22&hl=en&sa=X&ei=DwICU_joDcjQyAG_uIGgDQ&ved=0CCoQ6AEwAATancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-45317631137306462882014-02-16T23:51:56.136-08:002014-02-16T23:51:56.136-08:00LeonG, maybe you are right, but if the church (i.e...LeonG, maybe you are right, but if the church (i.e. Bishops and Cardinals) before 1960s were NOT "neo-liberal modernists", how did this "turning" happen? How was possible to have such a "mutation" in the Church - after the pontificates of popes like Saint Pius X and Pius XII? If anyone knows any serious study about this issue I will be very interested in reading it.Roberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01158923307465346376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-28062486801766461002014-02-16T23:49:17.500-08:002014-02-16T23:49:17.500-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Roberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01158923307465346376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-25147301924264102012014-02-15T19:43:28.754-08:002014-02-15T19:43:28.754-08:00"It was there, that the Bishops' Conferen..."It was there, that the Bishops' Conferences rejected in 1968 the prophetic encyclical of Pope Paul VI. with explanations in Königstein, Maria Trost and Solothurn. Acts of open rebellion, which have not been withdrawn until today and yet remained without consequences for the bishops."<br /><br />## Criticise or ignore a teaching encyclical such as Humanae Vitae - & remain a bishop in good standing.<br /><br />Compare w/ that the disgusting - & canoniocally illegal - treatment of Abp Lefebvre. <br /><br />Some "renewal" !James https://www.blogger.com/profile/10778088696977639132noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-4192110837548532182014-02-14T09:28:43.576-08:002014-02-14T09:28:43.576-08:00In the meantime, as cardinal the current pontiff g...In the meantime, as cardinal the current pontiff gave us a preview of liturgies to come under his inculturated auspices - example taken from Pope JP II.the inculturated liturgical exponent par excellence.<br /><br />http://www.traditioninaction.org/RevolutionPhotos/A557-Tango.htmAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03115383788794738941noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-60749000941707060632014-02-14T08:53:47.433-08:002014-02-14T08:53:47.433-08:00"Something's very rotten in the state of ..."Something's very rotten in the state of the Vatican"<br /><br />Lynda.... the rot is systemic since the 1960s. the neo-liberal modernist church is turning the institution inside out to conform to the standards set by their friends at the UN.<br />Every pope (except JPI) has lauded the UN since Paul VI. They just love anthopocentrist philosophies, liturgies and organisations. The apostasy is almost complete. the papacy is certainly rotten - it is liberal modernist to the core and, from the catholic point-of-view only semi-literate as this pope knows no Latin. How unimaginable is that?<br />Our Blessed Lady has been opposed by the conciliar fathers as Mediatrix of all graces and they have ignored Her admonitions about compromises and hierarchical divisions. She is the enemy of ecumenism according to Fr Kolbe and She symbolises the renewal of life which stands in stark contrast to the culture of death which is gradually being embraced by our fickle, faint-hearted, politically correct and morally deficient episcopate who always remain in "full communion" with the pope. yes, no wonder they do.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03115383788794738941noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-86297972716137884932014-02-14T04:25:38.980-08:002014-02-14T04:25:38.980-08:00Things will change for the better when Pope Franci...Things will change for the better when Pope Francis and company are gone from the scene.<br /><br />Cardinal Mariadiaga, for one , is so smug now. But he and his views will be outcasts in the Church before too long!! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-70414171071200987162014-02-13T13:34:46.922-08:002014-02-13T13:34:46.922-08:00How ironic to charge that the Church is not "...How ironic to charge that the Church is not "gay friendly" enough while condemning the homosexual abuse of teenage boys in the Church. I so wish everyone would stop using the word "pedophilia," when the Jay report's findings clearly revealed the signature of homosexual abuse. (Although they whitewashed it by saying homosexuals were not implicated... sorry, your own data gives lie to that.) Pedophiles are attracted to very young children of either sex. Homosexuals... young teen boys are classic. I am waiting to see if the Church shows signs of settling for first among equals in whatever role the UN eventually allots to religion, or if the Church will fight. Many would fight for her!The Bearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01710209668580303074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-74575954525791613502014-02-13T07:36:37.902-08:002014-02-13T07:36:37.902-08:00It seems clear to me that we are in the final batt...It seems clear to me that we are in the final battle prior to the end of time, Satan is using all the guns at his disposal in a final assault to destroy the Church. He is advancing and making headway everywhere. But those charged by Almighty God with the task of teaching the True Faith and upholding His Honor and Kingship refuse to do so. They have succumbed to the glories and adulation of the World which they prefer and seek.<br />This pope, and most of his Curia, and most of the bishops around the world are guilty of abandoning the sheep, not for fleeing from the wolves, but for joining them. Perhaps that is "the sin against the Holy Spirit".<br /><br />Yet, there will be a remnant left and "the gates of hell will not prevail against God's Holy Bride".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-539656535231755222014-02-13T05:38:34.279-08:002014-02-13T05:38:34.279-08:00But the church hierarchy are all such good liberal...But the church hierarchy are all such good liberals! You mean that adopting the new evangelization and "aggiornamento" doesn't guarantee that the world will love them, it only means that the world "may" love them? I bet some of the more rigorous exegetes in the hierarchy must now be concluding that not only did Our Lord pretend to be angry for effect, but he also possibly told falsehoods at least by implication. After all, didn't Our Lord teach a way in which his followers not only could serve him, but also be loved by the world? I'm sure one of the more faithful proponents of the super-council VII will demand, demand with all the righteous indignation he can muster that the UN recognize him as the fully up-to-the date, attuned to the times man he is. The Holy Father should recognize that this is a great "teaching moment" for him -he can evangelize the UN with his "gospel", teaching them "who are they to judge"! Oh, I forgot, proselytizing is all solemn nonsense. Forgive me!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-65038363890403318312014-02-13T04:49:21.451-08:002014-02-13T04:49:21.451-08:00Something indeed is very rotten in the Vatican, an...Something indeed is very rotten in the Vatican, and has been since March 13, 2013. Namely Francis himself.<br />We must also add to him, the list of his 8 cardinal "advisors", and also the new Secretary of State, the soon to be Cardinal Parolin,59.<br />Rotten all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-76106942518757277272014-02-13T02:26:56.767-08:002014-02-13T02:26:56.767-08:00Something's very rotten in the state of the Va...Something's very rotten in the state of the Vatican. It ought to be coming out with an aggressive and unequivocal refutation and condemnation of this irrational and unprecedented attack on the Church in respect of matters it has no powers to scrutinise and which bear no relationship to the subject matter purportedly under review. Lyndahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01714204002726632689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-64074576025814926122014-02-13T00:33:29.601-08:002014-02-13T00:33:29.601-08:00I think that one of the most important debates cou...I think that one of the most important debates could be related with the last part of this post: <br /><br />"It was there, that the Bishops' Conferences rejected in 1968 the prophetic encyclical of Pope Paul VI with explanations in Königstein, Maria Trost and Solothurn. Acts of open rebellion, which have not been withdrawn until today and yet remained without consequences for the bishops." <br /><br />Actually, there were many bishops who openly denied the teachings from "Humanae Vitae" (see, for instance, the in-famous Winnipeg Statement). ). How could be possible to have an infallible teaching of the Church rejected without having excommunicated those who denied it? I think that it could be highly instructive for any Catholic reader to learn how such a situation in the Catholic Church has become nowadays the "norm" - to have bishops and priests who openly and publicly deny the teachings of the Church without being excommunicated.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-2866084765373825412014-02-12T21:46:12.828-08:002014-02-12T21:46:12.828-08:00Gay priests, the gift that keeps giving. Check out...Gay priests, the gift that keeps giving. Check out the names of those that supported NAMBLA being allowed to march in a gay pride parade...<br /><br />https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/bit.listserv.gaynet/y0uVNdQ2Juw/V6WEVdXErOgJAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com