tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post1090372928866303639..comments2024-03-28T15:32:38.398-07:00Comments on The Eponymous Flower: Pope Francis Throws Ex-Superior General of the Mercedarians out of the Priesthood and the OrderTancredhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-90539449101018478362017-09-05T15:30:04.685-07:002017-09-05T15:30:04.685-07:00"A deeper look into both Orders, revealing su..."A deeper look into both Orders, revealing such scandals as this priest, and sexual immorality of all kinds, as well as laxity in observance, is the root of the problem. They are hypocrits.....appearing traditional...but are not."<br /><br />I was studying with the Mercedarians and left because of the rampant homosexuality and psychological abuse in the order.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-26768333092924882312017-04-26T15:06:25.486-07:002017-04-26T15:06:25.486-07:00Yes, I've seen the beautiful Cathedral in Phil...Yes, I've seen the beautiful Cathedral in Philly which I think is the main Church of the Archeparchy of Philadelphia. A church near my house reminds me of it, but that church is Greek Orthodox...St. Luke's in Broomall.<br />Damian MalliapalliAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-89465263058563067172017-04-26T15:01:40.240-07:002017-04-26T15:01:40.240-07:00The "anti Islam" element of the Mercedar...The "anti Islam" element of the Mercedarian Order dies out hundreds of years ago. They, and the smaller and less well known Order of the Most Holy Trinity (founded by Saint John de Matha in France (Cerfroid, France), alittle before the Mercedarians were the two Orders whose friars would actually volunteer to take the place of Christians captured by Muslims. Some actually were taken by the Muslims while the layman they were rescuing went free. The Orders also paid huge ransoms to free Christians captured by Muslims as well.<br />But this original zeal died out about 500+ years ago, and both Orders became simply Orders of mendicant friars like the Dominicans and Franciscans establishing monasteries, schools, as well as being missionaries.<br />In the Church of Vatican II, I don't think we can say any Order has escaped the rot that came from it. Seeing pictures of this now disgraced priest in layclothes unfortunately is how most of them dress in Europe, which is why so many Orders are dying out. The Trinitarians numbered about 1,000 before Vatican II, and are close to 700 today....so they have not suffered as badly as the Mercedarians. Their habit is also among the most unique and beautiful in the Church for male religious. Probably the nicest.<br />Unfortunatly since Vatican II, and encouraged by the bad example of recent Popes, especially JP II and worst of all...Francis, the missionary spirit in the Catholic Church (missionary in the true, authentic, pre Vatican II mindset) is gone. Proof is that literally all the once great Orders of both male and female religious whose original purpose was missionary, have suffered huge losses since Vatican II and have no vocations.<br />Just as an example---in the USA alone,right before Vatican II, there were over 36,000 USA missionaries(priests and nuns). And that was just in the USA. Now imagine the even bigger totals that used to come from Europe, and some from Latin America. All gone.<br />Today, if there are 250 USA missionary priests or nuns out in the field, I'd be surprised! :)<br />Damian MalliapalliAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-9037385184144801112017-04-26T12:29:32.926-07:002017-04-26T12:29:32.926-07:00Good point! Although whether the founder and the g...Good point! Although whether the founder and the gloriously martyred members of the Mercedarians would even recognise the Order in the 21st century is open to question. What is certain though is that nothing must be allowed to get in the way of the Church's decades-long vogue for the "insanity" (to quote Pope Gregory XVI) of religious liberty - currently on steroids and topped off with a Scotch Bonnet washed down with a bottle of bourbon. Blottohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08646938871019017846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-49021945451260432422017-04-26T09:36:27.645-07:002017-04-26T09:36:27.645-07:00Could this have something to do with the anti Isla...Could this have something to do with the anti Islam stance of the order? It is the belief of HH Francis that Islam is an evolving entity which is repentant in its own way. He has stated that the cause of the violence is caused by economic disparity. The history of this order is proof and this is a theological issue and not an economic one. Nevertheless, you do have to weed out those who take advantage of their position as a form of sexual depravity.JBQhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09344181644293746758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-74678091541438191392017-04-26T05:42:21.825-07:002017-04-26T05:42:21.825-07:00QuidquidQuidquidAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-25642257720968065862017-04-26T05:22:15.196-07:002017-04-26T05:22:15.196-07:00Hey, we're practically neighbors! Ukrainian Ca...Hey, we're practically neighbors! Ukrainian Catholic Archeparchy of Philadelphia.<br /><br />Margaret<br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-39300061412957230962017-04-26T04:36:30.070-07:002017-04-26T04:36:30.070-07:00Whatever.Whatever.Tancredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16015531337154301560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-90989482942754428742017-04-26T04:27:25.386-07:002017-04-26T04:27:25.386-07:00I'm surprised that Francis would go after a ra...I'm surprised that Francis would go after a radical liberal priest, regardless of his crimes. This is actually a very good thing. But, unfortunately, mostly all Vatican II era religious Orders have dozens, of not hundreds of priests guilty of similar crimes....not to mention in dioceses.<br />The Mercedarian Order in the USA has barely 25 members. Yet they have been in the USA for close to 100 years. The first were Italian friars who established 2 parishes catering to newly arrived Italian immigrants. Before Vatican II, the Order world wide had about 1,800 friars, and was particularly strong in Italy,Spain, and Mexico. Today, it has less than half that number of friars, most are elderly.<br />In the USA Provice of the Order, they attempt to appear traditional, and staff a parish in my Philadelphia Archdiocese and also have their friary for formation here in Philadelphia. They send their seminarians to Saint Charles Borromeo Seminary, which is about four blocks from their base. They have never had more than 4 mem in training at the seminary, and even after claiming to be traditional, still only have barely 24 friars in the USA. They have hovered around that total for years...never growing.<br />They remind me of the EWTN Franciscan Friars of the Eternal Word, who from all outward appearances are orthodox and traditional and should be growing with many vocations, but are not. A deeper look into both Orders, revealing such scandals as this priest, and sexual immorality of all kinds, as well as laxity in observance, is the root of the problem. They are hypocrits.....appearing traditional...but are not.<br />Damian MalliapalliAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4404498638452030181.post-3020532615516287432017-04-25T22:46:24.293-07:002017-04-25T22:46:24.293-07:00If he were a valid priest I would have commented. ...If he were a valid priest I would have commented. "He is a priest forever. Regardless of what a superior says he's not anymore". But since we're talking about a modernist layman being reprimanded by another modernist layman in papal garb. It's whatever...GMUAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09152974586282832626noreply@blogger.com