Wednesday, July 11, 2018

Are Most of the Bishops Aberrosexual or at Least Fellow Travelers?


Beware of false prophets, who come to you in the clothing of sheep, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 
By their fruits you shall know them. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 
Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit, and the evil tree bringeth forth evil fruit.


Edit: a lot of people were really frothing, raving mad that Michael Voris, Vox, Randy Engel and a few other bloggers are taking aim at clerical aberrosexuals. How is that anything new? Perhaps with the exposure of Uncle Ted, they sense the walls are closing in!  Indeed, it sounds like a real sore spot with some commenters invoking UK law against incitement of hatred. This was the reason Kreuznet was shut down, never to really rise again (although there is a shadow of it still publishing mostly Bishop Williamson’s regular letters to German speakers.) The heroic Kreuznet editors merely made the observation that a famous aberrosexual comedian who peddled his deviancy on the public street was in Hell, and they posted a host of quotations of Saints and Church Fathers to support their supposition. The German media melted down and exploded in a frenzy of hate. In the wake, even the German and Austrian Bishops got involved in helping the federal police of Austria and Germany discover the person or persons responsible with the evil Cardinal Schönborn in the forefront, bitterly condemning the site and its contributors. (I don’t think I’ve ever seen him that up in arms about anything)

These are the kinds of recriminations intended to silence Catholic teaching and normalize deviant behavior. This article by Lifesite is an excellent reminder of the problem within the Catholic Church which a lot of people don’t want fixed. Even back in 2005 when Diogenes wrote this article, the problem was omnipresent. Truly the Church has spiritual AIDS.

Speaking anecdotally from my own experience over the years, I’ve found clergy who are even relatively normal, or masculine to be as rare as clergy who are orthodox.

 Just to illustrate: Back at some point in the 80s,  a Lutheran Seminarian friend, let’s call him Jack, related a story of a friend of his who was a Paulist whom he met doing mission work in Latin America. His friend lived in their residence in Washington D.C.. It had a well-stocked refrigerator, and was beyond comfortable. The Central American women who worked at the house washing their clothes and cleaning, thought they were serving God and the Church by taking care of the Paulists there. Jack occasionally visited his friend there and would wait in the commons area where the Paulists would watch television. At one point, one of them approached him and asked him excitedly, “who are you with! You’re causing quite a stir around here!” 

I attended a High School where practically every single monk was an accused aberrosexual predator. If they weren’t, they were at least covering for the rest. At one point, this was one of the largest Benedictine houses in the world, but has since withered considerably with no abatement in their advocacy for deviancy. So based on my own experience of many years, I can tell you that effeminates and deviants were commonplace even in 1995, to say nothing of 2005. In fact, it seems that it was a problem long before that, but we don’t have to rely on my anecdotal experience and observations, but a look at the not insubstantial number of Bishops in the US and Canada cited by the now silent Diogenes who have been found to be aberrosexual by their civil cases, and now, we even see entire news networks like Salt and Light, and prominent individuals in the clergy like James Martin or Robert Barron (a close friend of Andrew Greeley’s) who in varying degrees soft-soap or actively endorse deviancy against the immemorial teaching of the Church.

July 10, 2018 (CatholicCulture.org) – The news that Cardinal McCarrick has been credibly accused of molesting a young man – and the subsequent revelations that "everybody knew" about the cardinal's homosexual activities – have raised new and important questions about the silence of other American bishops. What did they know, and when did they know it? How did the cardinal advance through the ecclesiastical ranks, even after complaints had been received in the dioceses where he served?

These are not new questions. In fact our sometime contributor Diogenes asked them – and pointed to the obvious answer – in a post that appeared on this site over 13 years ago. His argument was powerful in 2005, and although some of his references will now seem dated, nothing that has happened in the intervening years affects the essential force of that argument.

Maybe people are going to relate to their own experiences and connect the dots? 

Herewith the thoughts of Diogenes, from June 16, 2005:

The Washington Times reports that "the U.S. Catholic bishops will sidestep the issue of whether gay men should become priests at their semiannual meeting," which began today at the Chicago Fairmont.

And why, boys and girls, was it a foregone conclusion that the bishops would "sidestep" the issue? Because the question of whether gays should be ordained cannot be addressed without first addressing a considerably more explosive question: the number of bishop-disputants who are themselves gay and have a profound personal interest that there be no public examination of the connections between their sexual appetites, their convictions, and their conduct of office. Let's do a little stock-taking of those U.S. bishops who are publicly known to be gay:

  • Retired Bishop Dan Ryan of Springfield, IL. Did he tell us he was gay? No. Did his brother bishops tell us he was gay? No. Then how did we find out? Through the offices of the civil justice system.
  • Retired Bishop Tom Dupre of Springfield, MA. Did he tell us he was gay? No. Did his brother bishops tell us he was gay? No. Then how did we find out? Through the offices of the civil justice system.
  • Retired Bishop Patrick Ziemann of Santa Rosa, CA. Did he tell us he was gay? No. Did his brother bishops tell us he was gay? No. Then how did we find out? Through the offices of the civil justice system.
  • Retired Bishop Kendrick Williams of Lexington, KY. Did he tell us he was gay? No. Did his brother bishops tell us he was gay? No. Then how did we find out? Through the offices of the civil justice system.
  • Retired Bishop Keith Symons of Palm Beach, FL. Did he tell us he was gay? No. Did his brother bishops tell us he was gay? No. Then how did we find out? Through the offices of the civil justice system.
  • Retired Bishop Lawrence Soens of Sioux City, IA. Did he tell us he was gay? No. Did his brother bishops tell us he was gay? No. Then how did we find out? Through the offices of the civil justice system.
  • Retired Bishop Joseph Hart of Cheyenne, WY. Did he tell us he was gay? No. Did his brother bishops tell us he was gay? No. Then how did we find out? Through the offices of the civil justice system.
  • Retired Bishop Anthony O'Connell of Palm Beach, FL. Did he tell us he was gay? No. Did his brother bishops tell us he was gay? No. Then how did we find out? Through the offices of the civil justice system.
  • Non-Retired Bishop Robert Lynch of St. Petersburg, FL. Did he tell us he was gay? No. Did his brother bishops tell us he was gay? No. Then how did we find out? The papers reported his $100,000 sexual harassment pay-off to his communications flack.
  • Retired Archbishop Rembert Weakland of Milwaukee, WI. Did he tell us he was gay? No. Did his brother bishops tell us he was gay? No. Then how did we find out? His lover broke the news on Good Morning America

Post Scriptum: Back on October 30th, 2012 we  were the first to have posted an article on Father Dariuscz Ozco  about Homoheresy and a few others in English, as far as we know.

I’ve always found this to be very true from Church Militant:

Father Oko explained that those with homosexual tendencies reject the "warrior mentality" necessary in the Christian life. "[T]hey will not emulate our Lord as the warrior, as the counter symbol to the prevailing evil," he remarked. "They will try to orient the Church to being emotional, to having a dialogue with everybody, turning the Church into a 'safe space.' They don't like battle or confrontation."

AMDG

11 comments:

Ana Milan said...

What about the NUJ & CPA getting involved? Journalists worldwide must have a stack of verifiable data on these deviants which could be compiled & published so as to name & shame. The faithful priests & laity would be extremely grateful for this data to be widely shared. None of these high-ranking evil doers deserve protection & these associations can shield their members from vicious & vengeful attacks against known Truth.

JBQ said...

Bad and getting worse. Some twenty years ago, a Jewish woman acquaintance in New York City brought some allegations to my attention about Francis Cardinal Spellman. Actually, I thought that it was ludicrous until the same allegations starting cropping up from other sources.--- Spellman lived in the rectory with Bishop Fulton J. Sheen at St. Patrick's Cathedral. There was a blow up and huge conflict over the money generated from the television apostolate. Spellman wanted the money and Sheen refused to give it to him. Sheen then appealed to the Vatican and won his case. From that date, his days were numbered in New York.---Spellman had him removed and he was transferred to the gulag in Rochester. The true story of the conflict is a disconcerting one. Sheen knew of his proclivities and it made Spellman feel very guilty. He retaliated for this guilt by attacking Sheen for his economics. Sheen was seen as "holier than thou" and resented by Spellman.---Michael Voris has profiled current difficulties in the Archdiocese of New York with Vincent Micelli who is the chancellor and handles the parish assignments of priests. This is very upsetting in and of itself. The fact of the manipulation of the cause for sainthood of the truly saintly Sheen just puts an added onus on the entire situation in the archdiocese. It looks like the gay community wants no part of his memory which is still "holier than thou". Nevertheless, isn't that the true definition of holiness of being heroic under trying circumstances?

Tancred said...

Spellman was supposed to be traditional friendly.

Tancred said...

B16 had moved on a very large number of Bishops and forced them into retirement. According to Okpara, he’d moved on 60. The press really didn’t report on it much, although I recall they tried to defend an Australian progressive.

M. Prodigal said...

And how many has the present pontiff removed unless under extreme duress? Or perhaps we might ask how many has he appointed?

Tancred said...

He removed +Plano who was critical of an Archbishop he accused of being an aberrosexual.

John F. Kennedy said...

I miss Diogenes's writings. Always worth reading.

guy mcclung, rockport, texas said...

Cease now with the ontological "gay" - they ARE NOT. They freely choose what they do. No sinner is sin; sinners choose to do evil. You might find interesting:http://the-american-catholic.com/2018/07/11/priests-and-prelates-perverts-predators-what-is-a-faithful-catholic-to-do/.

Imagine how many preists, bishops, archbishops, cardinals and mother superiors whose crimes are still secret? and imagine the secret payments of the monies stolen from the faithful to pay for these crimes?

Guy Mcclung, tExas

Tancred said...


I’ve known a good number of sexual predators for real. They never change. They keep going back to their old habits and they’re irreformable. I think the Church was right to turn them over to the state for capital punishment.

Anonymous said...

"Are Most of the Bishops Aberrosexual or at Least Fellow Travelers? "

Easy answer---most? Probably yes......I'd guess 60%.

Damian Malliapalli

NYC Guy said...

Wrong name. The late Fr Vincent Micelli, SJ was a trad celebrating underground TLM since the 70’s. You meant Mustacciolli who is wicked!!

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